Fuck heroin

I don't think you need to be weak to get addicted. not in the sense you are a 'weak person' . . . you just need a weakness for that thing in particular, everyone's got weaknesses, everyone's vulnerable to some addiction from something

 

I think different people have different reasons for becoming addicted. Some may be weak. Some may just lose sight of how quickly they are spiraling and they begin to lose themselves. Certain drugs have a way of blinding you from the truth, and it's easy to get caught in the landslide, regardless of the type of person you are or how strong you may be. Before you even realize it, you're lost in a hell that you created for yourself, and it's very hard to find your way out.

"Weakness" only comes into play if you allow your addiction to destroy you, completely.

 

In my eyes, all of the above described is a weak person. People that are vulnerable are weak minded to me. Maybe I'm different. I have fought for my life all the way through. You should never loose yourself, blind yourself of the truth or loose sight on your actual goals in life.

Everyone perceptions are different for everything. If you get to the point that you have been on a week binge on H and can't stop, your weak imo. I can do it once, have fun, not touch it again and go on with my life with no problems. Everytime I have done it I have never searched to find it, the opportunity came up for me.

 

I would describe it as susceptibility, as opposed to vulnerability. Some people are just more susceptible to certain things, based on their brain/body chemistry. Some people can go on a week-long binge and not even become physically addicted. It's not the same for everyone.

Weakness depends on how you handle things AFTER you become addicted. It takes a stronger person to KICK an addiction than it does to PREVENT an addiction, imo.

 

I guess the way I think saves me from getting addicted in the first place then.

 

First of all I'm writing this on 2ce and 2cb and smoked a lot too, so I might sound strange ...

Let us start XD...

From opiates I tried heroin (10 times?), morphine (4-5), buprenorphine (15?) and tramadolum (1)... And you know what - they all are just fucking drugs .. And they are group of drugs that make you - happy, give you don't give a fuck attitude, relax you... And you know what else .... they are not even a bit more dangerous or wrong or unhealthy or bad than alcohol... which is IMO one of worst drugs ever...

I LOVE psychedelics and weed much more than opiates... In fact I also like amphetamines more than opiates... but I love opiates more than alcohol.
There are occasion they can be good...fun...whatever... Just like fucking alcohol...

Its not hard to get addicted neither to opiates neither to alcohol.. .If you drink and cant see how someone could be so ?week? to become alcoholic.... same thing with opiates... I know people who don't have problems using them and know people who fucked up because of opiates... same with booze...


Peace

 

Well that's definitely a good thing. lol Weed/psychedelics are the only things that are really worth doing often anyway and, thankfully, they don't steal our souls.

 

Definitely. Let's call that a conclusion ...

 

Like evangelicals say, hate the sin, not the sinner. I can dig strong negative feelings related to drug use that's certainly destructive (heroin, alcohol, cigs, meth, etc.), but still good to ease toward a place of less judgment on people who use. There are so many variables in what leads a person to head down that painful road.

(Not to disregard CrypToka's experience and anger - who wouldn't be angry! It's a bummer on several levels to have this happen. I'm sorry it did.)

And welcome home greendancinbear.

 

Not sure it's fair to blame it on heroin, some people just steal. I had a half gram of 4ho-something stolen once, pretty sure she had never tried h. Anyway, she passed shit out without a clue how to dose it. Some kid ended up wandering around naked and the cops shot him with two tasers at once and killed him.

 

heroin took the life of 1 of my bros

 

I was about to ramble on about some drug stuff and call you all fags... until I saw Writer's post.

Thank God there is still some sanity.

 

Heroin is a nasty drug for sure. i loved it though. I got caught up in "pain management" with oxycontin. then I say how cheap heroin is. $3-5 a bag. And fire shitz to. Weak does not have to do with everyone. some yes because they don't care for life. some where abused in some way as kids or whenever. They are hiding from pain in their lives. I lost my wife of 18yrs to heroin. But I understood she had issues. As I said, I love the warm fuzzy feel'in heroin gave me. I've been clean 6 1/2 yrs now. I always tripped and smoked the hole time.Not up to us or anyone to judge another person. trust between freinds is shitty now days.

 

its good to hear other peoples thoughts on this, much better than the people i know around my parts who dont really know much. thanks.

as for the dude that jacked, im sure it was because of his addiction problem, i knew that he had problems with methadone and pills in the past but when i met him he wasnt on any of that, then we got into trying new things here and there, going to some shows. and at some point when we stopped hanging out as much cause i was busy with a real life, he started doing pills here and there. then i heard him talk about heroin but i didnt pay attention to it since he hadnt been doing it (to my knowledge). then i focus on school for a while to finish the semester good and all of a sudden hes out of reach, and all my shits gone. after asking around, i found out that i havent been the only person jacked, but a few other aqcuaitances have also mentioned getting jacked for their tvs and game systems, weed, and bongs. all of who suspect is this same dude so the conclusion seems pretty obvious to me.

so i guess i learned something from this, which may be to get to know people better, not be so trusting, and be EXTRA careful with people ive met who have had problems like those before.

im still pissed though. da fuck? it took so long to put together the collection i had.

 

Agree with both of ya on all points. Kinda like how native americans are known for alcoholism, more so than any other people. I know some people that don't even like opiates AT ALL. Some people can do opiates and not have the urge to do it again, me personally I can smoke cigarettes daily for months and quit no problem, never look back or even think about wanting one. Everyone's different in infinite different ways.

 

Drugs are a bet with your mind.
Jim Morrison

 

that really sucks cryptoka. what was in your stash?

what?! seriously?

 

I've seen some of the most intelligent people I know suffer addiction. I honestly think if the government told the truth about marijuana and psychedelics there would be less opiate (and alcohol) abuse. Prohibition and miseducation ruins lives more than the substances themselves.

 

what? your fucking dumb no offense but miseducation is not a real word or really even close to a real word i think maybe your teachers mislearned you or something

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWU6hwzUAfY"]YouTube- Lauryn Hill Miseducation of lauryn hill