Psychedelic Bump

Ha! I'm not the only one who likes Fish'n'Trips.

 

I had to stay awake, lol, and have something to laugh at during the 2.5 hour drive back and forth. Along with trekking through teh side of the river to the spot, it was quite entertaining.

Can't wait to go fishing this weekend! Getting a new pole to devirginize and get wet.

 

Yes, I took part of a bump nasally once and I really liked it. No burn, slightly annoying drip, but it went away pretty soon. I never took my first dose nasal though.

I've done approx. 2.5g M1 over the past 2 months (at least a week in between each dose) and I discovered have a love/hate relationship with it. I've never heard of anyone else complaining of it, but the trip spikes up and down too much for me. At least 5 times throughout any given trip, it will suddenly drop me and I'm overcome with the most intense anxiety/depression/paranoia I've ever felt, sober or on substance. The downs usually last 2-5 minutes and then I go back up again, not quite as high, and it will continue in this pattern until I'm back at baseline.

I really, really want to try Molly, but my fear is that MDMA will do the same thing to me but more intense. As much as I love the ups of M1, these annoying down periods (I call it the "yuckies" bc that's the best way I can describe it to someone who hasn't felt it.. just the yuckiest you've ever felt in your entire life) are bad enough to make me reconsider getting anymore. Perhaps Methylone just isn't for me

 

very interesting and enlightening post sb. I have yet to experience "the yuckies" on methylone but Its good to know those possible side effects.

 

Huh. Most MDx's have a spiking effect for me, but the downs aren't depressing, they are just... sober. Like, I'm suddenly sober.

Hmm...Though... now that I think on it, MDMA actually does give me something like your 'yuckies'. Wave of deep anxiety/depression that goes away fairly shortly, but is kinda distressing. Hadn't thought of it in quite those terms, but now that I do, it fits. Haven't noted that with M1, but also have much less experience with it.

One thing that can be handy for smoothing out the rolling hills and valleys is to mix your MDMx with something. L is a perennial favorite, and works very, very well. If you like stims or deps, they both mix well, though both families are extremely high addiction risk groups. Other psychedelics have worked for me as well. Shrooms, mesc, 2c I and E both. I'd actually consider mixing B, even though there's a certain redundancy, as it might smooth the spikes out. Shrug.

Have fun.

 

I noted this somewhere else and Really I've only experienced it on ecstasy thus far but on the worst comedowns from clean rolls I feel like my hampster just died or something and usually not in any shape to mix more drugs into the equation (maybe except for the ganja or an inhalant).

Comedowns from crappy rolls suck too but its more of just a pissed off frantic/irritable feeling as that's the nature of tweak and bzp.

 

I've actually found bumping a light dose of a 2c does wonders for the occasional deep sorrow that can come at the end of a roll. Brings me out of my sadness and gives me pretty stuff to look at without bumping energy levels back up much. Get to have pretty visuals as I drift toward sleepy time.

 

Im sure it does but I'm often stubborn and usually don't feel like returning to wonderland once my metaphorical hampster has died, although I could certainly be persuaded to do such a bump in the presence of another.

 

Well, for me it's less of a return to wonderland and more of a deep, somber introspective space, that works it's way into being a distraction/acceptance space. One thing to try to remind yourself is that what you are feeling is just the drug, not a real hamster. Can help.

Another option is popping a couple melatonin. Works wonders, let's you just sleep it off.

 

See I find such a combo to be infact not accepting part of the mdma experience, solely distraction and attempt to dilute the negative aspects which is just as valuable apart of the experience as the positive, with other chemicals. That being said I love mixing MDMA with other substances when ive made plans beforehand of doing so.

 

meletonin after 5-ht bombs works pretty well against the post trip stimulation.

 

OB: M1 bumpitty-bump-bump (blank blank)

Aww, that does sound so sad. But fear not! They still make the stuff! :rofl:

Sorry to tease but its been a year since I've thought I'd seen 'the last' ... just gotta remember its a vicious cycle that will repeat insanely. teehee

Its not like its the last tobacco cigarette on a drive, 50+ miles to the 'next to last chance' to buy smokes.

Not like I'm personally addressed, but since I'm so lab-ratty I figured why not plug it, just plug it (plug it), and gotta say it would help those who want to not be sniffling all day. And I've had several lifetimes of shots (no record) and would like to think I'm forever vaccinated against all kinds of haightosis and mountain view flu, nyuk nyuk, so I shouldn't see a needle other than in a pincushion - almost stepped on one the other day from sewing torn mosquito netting... anyways.

'Duration&efficiency of absorption' might be different, but as with all IV/nasal vs oral/anal ROAs, amount is different, and/or duration changes, and maybe intensity too?. Oral hits my metabolism too fast and I get excessive 'yuckiness' as best others here have termed 'that thing that happens when you do that thing' . Odd to think, but oral might be the most intense ROA for me, as I cannot see the peaks and dips coming or predict its exact moment as well, its just a 'hold on to something, and strap yourself down' way - maybe due to dosage amounts....

And props to he supplemental vitamin mentions people! If you don't have every Rx on hand, there are many good things OTC that are helpful. Melatonin was once illegal in USA, ya?? wadda' country!

Vitamin tangent (hijack alert!) I also want to say the name 'DMAE' just to get people to ask, 'wtf is that?' so I can say "duh! Dimethylaminoethanol, go google or wiki it." I figure it'd be the kind of thing a 'research chemical' analyst would test ... I used to routinely do cycles, as tolerance develops, and complex B vitamins helped it metabolize or something - I'm sure the interested parties will develop a course of self-study. [/END RAMBLE]

 

i vaped some damiana. got a headache.

 

oh.. its very foggy outside..

 

bump for damiana/wormwood/mugwort combo. I used a bubbler tho and do not have a headache.

 

what kinda psychedelic is that?

 

Good question.
Bump for a bunch of molly over the past few days (guess that's not much of a psychedelic either).
Tons of booze and the last of my k.
Been out for a while.

 

Thanks for the insight! 2c-i will most likely be the "buffer" I choose when I finally try Molly. I doubt I'll dose them together, but I'll keep it handy in the case of some yuckies/crash.

I had a small dose (20mg) of 2c-i last Friday at a party where I turned out to be the oldest person.. didn't realize going into it that it was a "high-school-parents are away for the weekend" type deal, but I digress. Needless to say, I spent much of the party outside or in a room away from the rowdy children. At one point I got to thinking about how 2c's come in waves for me (as opposed to spikes on M1) and that 2c-i, with its lack of profound insight and deep emotional qualities, could be exactly what I need to counteract the potential yuckies of Molly. Nothing will deter me from at least trying Molly, and if it turns out it gives me the yuckies like M1 or worse, then hey, lesson learned. All in the name of science.

 

I had a very psychedelic experience on some molly very recently Same stuff you got Smitty. I guess that's what you get for loosing time and taking ~400mg in an hour.

 

Blasphemy:
Personally, I'm an advocate of taking each substance once on it's own first. So maybe give molly 2 tries, one on it's own, and if you get the yuckies the first time, try again in combination with something? I find even though the yuckies happen, it's still often worth it for the high points of the roll.