DPT strategy

I have read numerous trip reports and it looks like there is a lot of variability and opinions out there.

I am planning on the insufflated route and have a lot experience with psychedelics so your advice would be really appreciated.
Planning to start with 80mg and line up an increment of 30mg, then see where 80mg will get me in terms of the peak incoming (15-20min?) and if happy bump up the ride with one 30mg increment.

Is that approach a good idea? I would like to highlight that I'm in for a serious ride and truly exploring this compound, not just playing hide'n'seek with it...

 

https://www.erowid.org//experiences/exp.php?ID=79766

that's my somewhat brief trip report from dpt last summer.

i get blown away by things very easily, but those 70-100mg doses seem to be kind of "inbetween" the closed eye, laying in bed, ego death experiences that a lot of people have reported at the higher doses, and a lower open eye tryptamine dose [i dosed somewhere in my 30s i believe the first time and had a fairly mild trip].

it's really brutal on the nose as well, but that seems to be the best way of taking the hcl salt.. injection sounds kind of scary with dpt, but i'd LOVE to try converting some to a freebase and smoking it at some point.

i'm sure a lot of the others on here have things to say about this, but 80mg might either be kind of mild, or totally blow your head off...the experience seems to be very subjective.

 

Definitely leave a report on this one, I've been debating whether or not to order

 

I have no experience with dpt but based on comparisons I've heard to like a dmt trip or 100 hits of potent LSD, I think its best to just take it all In at once. You have to blow through the gates with these substances the idea of sitting there tinking and toying with small bumps seems like a waste of time and a waste of part of your high. Just take it all in one sit/lay back and enjoy the show.

 

I suggest you just blow on through..

I took 150mg for my first dose, which was enough to acheive ego loss, but the come-up was pretty.. strange. It's intense stuff. You may not be able to take more depending on how powerful 80mg is for you, even if you think you want to take more.

Being stuck between ego loss and real world is strange stuff. I think that a dose that doesn't cause ego loss would be something like coming up towards ego loss (frightening high dose come-up), but never going anywhere.

Anyways, take what I say with a grain of salt because I've only snorted it twice and both times were 150mg

 

ya man I'd go even higher than 80 @ inssuflation if I were you. I turned it into freebase and went with 40 mg which would be a "high common" dose as well according to erowid. it was a decent 30 minute trip don't get me wrong but the experience was pretty unimpressive vs what I thought it would be. when I get more I'm just try 100 with the same method to see how it suits me before I snort any though.

 

yeah start off at 80mg railed, it varies alot between people.

 

You wont want to take more after you take the first portion. Its hard on the body. Thats assuming that you can control yourself enough to take the other half.

Plus, after 15 min the mucus will stop anything else entering your nose. It is HORRIBLE on the nose. Expect a clogged nose for about 2 days at least. My first time was with 100mg. I think you should either do 80 or jump it up to 150.

 

Yeah that's seems to be the only thing people agree on. So you guys recommend just using one nostril, which makes perfect sense, but what exactly do you mean by fucking up the nose? What would you compare it to? And are there any precautions/ remediation to that issue or you just need another two days for it to ease and go away?

Shermin, I really enjoyed reading your trip report. It looks to me as if your physical and mental condition could have amplified the trip as opposed to having 70mg well rested and with a good set'n'setting. But as you said you never know what to expect from this tryptamine...

I think you guys convinced me to go around 120mg as being stuck "in between" with the effects that you can expect from DPT is probably not very pleasant...

...it's like "DPT's way or the highway" haha.

 

do you say that so one doesn't get stuck "half way?"

how else is it hard on your body? what's the comedown like? next day?

 

nah no comedown at all or body load the next day, with the exception of a runny nose for a few days after.

 

By fucked up nose I mean it clogs it in such a severe manner that you will think its broken... Lol. Like the clogged from this is the strongest clog I have had. It is unmoving mucus that feels... I dunno, much thicker. There really isn't much you can do to make it go away.

I had to have the moderators delete my TR because of an issue that happened in Iraq. But since thats long gone and over I will post it again since so many people are thinking of trying it. I got "stuck in between" kinda.... It was the most interesting trip for sure... Bad setting though.

Here is the link to my TR

 

I say that so no one gets stuck half way for sure. Its hard on the body because the body high from this is just, if not more, as strong as the visuals. To me it felt like all of my body was convulsing in a weird way and that it was raping every piece of my being. I was exhausted afterwards.

The come down is amazing... Its SO colorful and releaving that you just can't help but be happy. Next day is next to nothing, save the fucked nose.

 

what if my nose is constantly partially clogged? maybe the DPT clog won't be so miserable for me since i'm half used to it

 

ever tried nasal rinses, or "neti pots"? I didn't have one at the time, but I imagine it would work greatly for clearing a clogged nose -

http://www.neilmed.com/usa/adword_sr.php?gclid=CNbHsa23rKICFRMeDQodpyRx_Q

you can buy them at any drugstore or supermarket.

 

i used one once, for the heck of it. it was my buddies actually, haha. which is pretty gross. we cleaned it with boiling water first. but he explained that you have to make a really dorky nasally sound, to keep your throat blocked off, so the salt water solution stays in you nasal cavity. it's like "gnnnnnnnnnnnnnlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll"

but yea, anyone use one after DPT snortation?

 

i would just advice you to take it by itself.. and be wise with it. 'cause i insuflated 150-175mg while totally drunk and and saw demons flying at me and all kinds of crazy shit. i seriously thought my friend had stabbed me and i experienced my death like 8 times... oh yeah and was very close to being arrested when two cop cars found me rolling around on the street in the middle of the early morning. i was only saved by my friend who found me in time and convinced the cops i was just really drunk and then picked me up and took me back home. sounded like what i heard a bad datura trip can be.

 

No, its beyond normal clogging. Its intense.

Might help, but I don't think it would help that much. I tried to snort water for the same kind of effect, but you can't put water down a hole that doesn't exist. It clogs it like you wouldn't believe.

 

i never remember my nose clogging.. and i did dpt quite a bit a few years back.

 

the peak takes one hour to get to. Don't incrementally bump DPT, just pick a dose and do it. Your nose will be insanely clogged. Have lots of tissues around, you are going to be blowing out a bathtub of hard, yellow mucous when you come down. You may get a sinus infection or generally have a really fucked up nose for several days or weeks afterwards. There is no body load or hangover otherwise to speak of, other than typical post-psychedelic stuff.

I would start with 100-150mg. Everything you know and are will be destroyed. This is the safest way to do DPT, don't leave anything alive to squirm in helpless agony during the experience . . . don't take a chance.

Takes 1 hour to peak, peak lasts 1 hour, and then comedown lasts 1 hour. It's a neat little 3 hour package.

The only thing that will help you with DPT is a readiness to die and a humility like that which an ant feels before a supernova. Don't kid yourself . . . DPT is the scariest thing you'll ever experience. I can't wait to put it in my nose again