salvia breakthrough finally

FINALLY BROKE TROUGH. holy fuck it was weird - I packed a big bowl of 60x and took the torch lighter and toched it all and did it in 3 very big hits.

I already felt it by the first, but I kept on pounding it and by the time I was sucking the 3rd I was losing connection with reality.

as I blew out that 3rd toke thats when I was just blasted off. reality just got blown out the window, and I felt like I was trapped in this "state", and to be honest it was pretty scary and fucking INTENSE.

I didn't feel any spirits or anything, but rather an extreme dissosciation from reality to the point where it meant nothing at all, and I was in a state of panic the whole time basically.

with that being said, I think of it as a good experience overall and will definitely do it in the future - maybe when im on K.

 

Nice man glad you brokethrough. Pretty strong stuff for sure, nothing really quite like it either. You're gonna mix it with k? damn that would probably be a trip to say the least. If you're into MDMA you should try it at the end of a roll, the MDMA doesn't make it quite as frightening and its pretty amazing, it also lasts a few minutes longer too.

 

hmmm salvia with mdma might work, but it would probably work as well with benzos.

 

I dont use benzos so cant help you there, but sally flipping is my favorite flip' even more so than candy or kitty flipping. The salvia gravity/push/wind whatever you want to call it is somewhat negated by the MDMA euphoria. Also if you meditate at all, meditate for like 15 mins directly after the trip. Last time I meditated on it I was floating like 3 feet above my bed with eyes open and with eyes closed I was flowing down this 'river' of energy and when I rocked my head slighly it would propel me quicker. Pretty amazing.

I'm probably the minority of people who just enjoy salvia for what it is too. I still experience fear sometimes but something about it always seems to leave me in awe.

 

Tell us more if you can..was there any halucinations ? What did you feal ? When you say reality was gone what was in its place ? 3 huge hits of the 60 must have felt like madness...lol. I can relate to the state of panic..feeling like im gonna stat that way for good and a strong desire to live..to "be". I need to learn to close my eyes and let it take me before i can realy enjoy what it has to offer. I still feel pulled to it. I just pull it out and look at it but I just put it back away and say to my self..another day. Id rather just save it till friends come over and watch them do it..he he..Im so evil. Id tell them what it is of course.

Here is some cool salvia stuff...
Never ending zoom art project...awesome.

http://zoomquilt2.madmindworx.com/zoomquilt2.swf

Salviashaman <<< I want what this guy expierienced...give it a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSalviaShaman#p/a/u/1/9eA2sXukqRQ

 

yeah the hallucinations / visuals were INTENSE. as I blew out the 3rd hit, my friends said I started swaying side to side and at this point my visual field was getting fragemented into replications of itself, and this got SO fucking intense to the point where that was the whole process.

there was me, no reality, no nothing. being a "human" was not applicable at all in this state.

as all of this was happening I obviously had no idea what was going on in the physical world, and my friends said that I was drooling like CRAZY and rolling around all over the place.

this is how I see it - psychedelics give you ego death and you become aware of the fractalization process of the universe. salvia is more like ego murder, with a "WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO ME" kind of mentality.

the human brain is beautiful - and so are drugs too.

 

I hope you never go to that place salvia took me... twice.

 

I consistently hear that Salvia dismembers you to a point beyond recognition. Recognition implies being cognizant of what is already there. At a certain point in our biological development, we had no cognizance. The agglomeration had not developed to the point of mutual recognition. That is to say , no liver to recognize stomach, no brain to recognize the liver. The body is the ego's home. The ego is a social currency. Salvia it seems takes you to a place of elementary differentiation, The fractal effect.. Multiplication is quick addition.

 

It could be that I'm just not understanding what you are talking about but what I think you are saying may be more applicable to dmt then salvia. Dmt seems to have intense and distinct fractalization and making one aware or unaware of particular functioning in the body.

A salvia breakthrough is like turning the channel on reality nothing that is here goes there.

Possibly its something about the high altitude it normally grows at but even on pleasureable experiences something in the body just rejects this stuff. While there is some mathematical element in alot of trips its not been a recurring theme in all my journeys. Trying to make sense of salvia is pointless the experience is so beyond the limits of language that any evolutionary or biological explanation one may posit looks foolish to those of us that have been there.

 

To hopefully clarify, I am suggesting that is is a view from before we become a cohesive self. Our cells replicate from a single essential model replicated over and over again.

 

Oh ok, I still maintain what you are talking about relates more to dmt. Salvia seems some place we haven't been yet from an experiential viewpoint. Some place we can't be. I'm very hesitant to use the word future it just seems like a place where nothing human resides. The primate brain doesnt recognize any aspect of it hence the drooling, flailing about. Some people I know have laughed for 5 straight minutes on it then after they say "I'm never doing that again."

As intense as dmt is there remains something distinctly human about the experience, salvia on the other hand seems void of anything human and you essentially become a 'molecule' or perhaps 'gear' is a better word of that place/thing.

 

I haven't done dmt, but what you say here is basically what I am getting at.

 

oh ok well I obviously seem to have a difficult time understanding alot of what you say based on the two threads we've directly interacted on.

 

AH! Thank you, that's exactly how I've been trying to describe portions of my breakthrough but couldn't quite find the wording. Somehow, I was being disassembled at a rapid pace into a million pieces and they were being incorporated into the fractals. It felt like I was transforming into something inanimate, maybe some kind of huge, intricate machine that had some kind of purpose but was not profound or sentient.

Yours sounds really similar to mine. I'm glad you finally broke through even though it's not a pleasant experience. That one's gonna stay with you a while. I don't plan to revisit it any time soon, but I'd be lying if I said never...

 

I say never. And that's exactly what I got out of it, some kind of huge intricate machine... more like a weaving of fabrics than anything mechanical.... but there was an entity running the show there.. and I directly confronted it both times. it seemed forceful and cunningly malicious.

I say fucking NEVER! lol... fucking terrified me, I'm surprised I didn't cry. haha

 

my salvia trip was very similiar to yours. 3 strong hits from the 60x got dissasociated talked to my tv had like cnn on it was weird n stood up n saw another me. hated then but looking back i wanna go for another dive

 

I wonder why some people breakthrough to a whole nother seeming plane of existence and some people just get really trippy...

 

I'll definitely do it again - possibly even tonight (while on AMT), im not set on it though.

 

yeah that is a good question cuz ive had friends smoke the same amount and just uncontrollably laugh while im in a different world

 

That's lame. If I had to go through that then so should you fuckers.