Hello, Middle-aged female. i have good clean molly, which i used to take about once every 8-10 weeks for about 6 months. i am having trouble managing what i call "the hangover." MDMA cracks my head open wide and i get a flood of psychological material, yet i do not take it with a psychotherapist. So, when i come down i crash into this material and the emotional lability that comes with it. This is material that i have been doing ongoing and effective work with for a long time. My most intense work has been with DMT. The main topic revolves around issues of death and loss both of which i have experienced copious amounts. i think i could deal with the psychological material if i felt better physically upon returning to the baseline state from MDMA intoxication. Does anyone have any good advice on how to minimize the MDMA hangover? i use the obvious stuff: take it in a good set/setting when healthy, happy and well-rested. Pre-dose with Advil & sometimes a multi-vitamin and aggressively push/consume water before, during and after the experience. Frankly, i'm getting to the point where i can honestly say that MDMA is scaring me. This just sounds wrong for someone who is such a hard-core DMT user and is used to dealing with intense fear issues. i know there is value and fun in this material, especially since i do not dose frequently or with high doses. Any advice from mature, experienced users would be appreciated. i (respectfully) ask not to hear from kids who take handfulls of "epills," drink and do who knows what else to get through a night. If there's someone out there with some age and experience who has used this material successfully for both insight and fun and could offer some advice, i would be very appreciative. Thanks so much. Spicey Cat
Sorry I just go with too much of everything is just enough. Rather than try to avoid the hangover, I just learn to deal with it. Drink water after you wake uo until you urinate twice within 45 minutes. Eat two meals (breakfast & lunch). Tylenol for a headache, but I rarley get one of those when I'm hungover. By the way I think you're over doing the water. There's no need to consume excessive water unless you are sweating a lot. A couple of glasses is fine. 'Pre-dosing' with Advil is unnecessary and unhelpful. It seems like you're thinking about it too much. Which is making the hangovers worse. You're better off not thinking about it. Lastly, your body tells you when it's time to stop using a certain drug. It's happened with two different drugs with me, and I know other people that have experienced the same. This may just be your time, with this drug. Good luck.
Well, i'm back and appreciated all the replies. The Advil pre-dose is essential for me with any/all psychedelics or empathogens or dissociatives. i am osteo-arthritic to the point of having multiple oesteophytes (bone spurrs). i went to some of the links presented above and came to the conclusion that i was dosing too high. i tried 65 mg this weekend (i weigh under 120 lbs) and wound up not only enjoying dinner but waking up feeling perfectly normal the next day. Yeah, i think about everything too much. Cursed left brain, ha ha. Not ready to give up Molly, but ready to quit taking whole caps - i really think the way to go is break them open and dose 1mg per kg of body weight for someone like me. i am 42 and have used it about 11 times in my lifetime, 4 of which were in the past 13 months. i am not done exploring this material even though i do not use it frequently. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Purrr!
I am young so possibly I don't experience some of the physical repercussions you do. I do get hangovers from ecstasy/molly/MDMA whatever you want to call it no matter how clean it is. In fact cleaner molly tends to give me a harsher rebound period than ecstasy pills. If low dosing works for you I'm great you found your way, I have trouble with low dosing MDMA personally, doesn't feel like the emotional floodgates open in the same way for me or really allow me any sort of worthwhile intospective self analysis. Spreading your uses apart is the best advice I can give if you have good control over it I find once every 3 months to be the most efficient use. Ive learned to 'embrace the hangover' and no matter what anyone says i consider it a psychedelic and an extremely valuable one at that. have the experience, try and use the comedown and hangover as a period for reflection and then integrate the experience and lessons learned into life where and if possible. I think some of us are just wired differently and more sensitive to the effects of MDMA both good and bad, like some can drink 10 shots in a night and wake up in the morning like nothing happened, some can do significant quantities of MDMA with no repercussions.
