Give respect where respect is due

the pull of interest towards psychedelics is a pull towards life

 

yes, i was calling him a crazy ladyman

 

I said the same fuckin thing...

 

its impossible to attempt to put the salvia experience in words eh?

 

Ahahahahaha

 

Just for the record this thread was ment to be ironic.

That's right, I'm still an asshole. haha

 

Ironic? You mean sarcastic?

 

I don't even know anymore...

 

Do you know any less?

 

Last year there was this one night that I ate four double stacks that I'm guessin' had 'bout ~200mg each, I did that with a gram of coke, some bubble hash and juicy, plump nugs, and to top it off, I was tootin' some Ritalin too.

I literally blacked out at one point and came to a few hours later laying down on my bed; I wasn't freaked out or anything, no Serotonin Syndrome, nothing bad happened, I just "lost time" for a while from firing off sooooo much serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine all night; me poor, poor brains couldn't take the intensity and I guess just shut off, but from that night on, at least once a month for a while after that I'd do that same combo, and sometimes throw in some NO2 whenever I felt so inclined. I mean, I don't wanna repeat the blacking out from too much coke/Molly/kiddie coke (there might have even been crack involved that night; I know there were one or two of those nights: I ain't ashamed, hehe), but yeah, I think I gotcha beat by ~200mg, lol. It was NUTS. I mean NUTS.

On top of that, I take pain meds, muscle relaxers, benzos, among other things, so I'm always feelin' a little groovy. Plus, since I was in Oakster-town, I had my club card which meant I always, always had the choicest, greenest swag (and OMG that bubble hash, it's like a brand name kind called a "Ganesha Wafer"... SOOO fuckin' goooood!). Huh? Where am I going with this again... oh yeah, I'm definitely a fearless freak.

In fact, I got me a nice 2C-I + 4-AcO-DMT trip coming up in the not-so-distant future, I can practically already feel the burn of the 2C-I as it goes up my nostril while the 4-AcO-DMT goes up the other, I'm thinkin', oh, 8mg each nostril + 25mg oral (or maybe rectal) of each; so exactly 33mg of each. I've never done rectal as a ROA, how 'bout you? Would ya recommend it or nay or do ya not know one way or the other? All I know fo' sho' is 8mg each are gonna be tooted first, and once I'm up then I'm following up with either the oral/anal ROA, just ain't yet decided if I wanna commit to pluggin' a gelatin capsule up me ol' bum. It isn't even that it weirds me out, I'm more afraid that it won't melt or something... hence asking you questions about *YOUR* anus and if you've ever probed around it with drugs in capsules! LOL! Seriously though, if ya have, lemme know if it works or if the gelatin capsule just sits up there doin' squat but makin' yer butt feel funny!!!

P.S. I may be tryin' that very same combo you did last weekend myself here very soon, it sounds lovelyyyyy!

 

Every time I've smoked salvia I've had a rockin' good time. In Berkeley I'd just get the stuff at the same lil' ol' shoppe that I bought my NO2 at, ahhh, salvia! It's such a rush, such a super rush; if only it'd last longer than 10 minutes at any given time and taste a lil' bit better, oh yeah, and not make you cough so damned heavily. Those are the three things I don't like about it. I'd like to get some straight up salvinorin-a crystals and go about it *that* way; perhaps then I'd really get the full-on experience I always crave from salvia but have never quite attained.

 

What does it take to be a genuine nutcase? Dosage? Things you've seen? Things you've done whilst tripping?

I reckon you can tell by looking sometimes, and the others look like ordinary drug users (trippy clothing, crazy hair and such) and those my friend are the biggest nutcases of all

 

I have a lovely bunch of coco nuts! deedaleedee

 

I respect seriously iboga. I am about to embark on it yet again, this week, after months of not doing any serious psychedelics here. I go.

and sam, I have to agree it takes a certain degree to take such crazy high doses of psychedelics. I just hope one day to take some of those with these amazing people in my shamanic group.

Yay!!

 

I get really good salvia and I love it! I can see how some fear it, bc it did make me completely someone different, I became one of these leaves, and another time I became, part of the ground , and I could see the sky above me. another time, I saw these crazy people, leaf people talking to me rather loudly. I do it in nature. so that probably helps the experience a lot more.

 

I'd agree with that statement regarding any and all psychedelics, dissociatives, & empathogens, the three best groups of substances simply for the profound way they impact lives.

I was asking around a week or so ago if anyone had taken it and if so, what the outcome was for (if the shoe fit the person, of course) addiction recovery in assoc. w/ taking ibogaine (my thread for it is somewhere around). I personally take psychedelics and empathogens (and dissociatives such as Salvia divinorum) for the purpose of self-growth/discovery/improvement... nothing spiritual about it for me as I am an agnostic, and rather, all existential reasoning/psychotherapeutic reasoning as my sole purposes when dosing.

When I was younger, I took such drugs just for kicks and had a lot of bad trips, not-so-seemingly coincidental to me either--I don't think such drugs are meant for kicks, esp. things like iboga or ayahuasca. Now, though, I tend to take psychs/empathos to delve deep into my soul and work through issues.

Soul: here defined as my own humanity--or yours, my 'essence'--or yours, and I do believe in some kind of cosmic order, so I'm technically a spiritual agnostic, nevertheless, tho', I don't believe in an afterlife exactly, a transfer of energy and matter yes, but nor do I believe even in a god or force of nature that we could wrap our brains around, understand, or even relate to the existence of.

If there is a god, it's something far beyond our comprehension IMHO... certainly *something* powerful created the universes that be (if you believe in the 'bubble theory' and therefore multiple universes, which I'm inclined to since mathematics can back it... and think about it, it just makes so much sense since on a micro level, everything is built up of cells, molecules, atoms and then further down electrons, neutrinos, etc.) so just looking up and bigger, our universe is likely one of zillions in some kind of mathematically ordered grouping (perhaps like a 'body' of sorts), and then it just builds up and up and up from there just as it infinitely builds down and down and down from where *WE* can observe--like a molecular structure only multi-verse size--and that from there, whatever those build (say this deity-type creation, hypothetically) make up something else, and hell, for all we know our universe may be a sort of molecule or atom or electron or neutrino or whatever in the make-up of some kinda being that's alive for real, just like us but different in that it's built up of more complex building blocks, i.e. universes and who-knows-what-else (so just maybe something alive by another set of biological constants/laws of physics that don't translate on our level even), and that that is god, sort of how, say, we have all of these cells in our bodies, and essentially we're our own gods over the cellular structure of ourselves and the death of one of us is akin to zillions of miniature universes (cells) degrading, releasing their energy, and transferring their matter to other things.

I dunno, I think about stuff like that a lot, esp. while tripping; it intrigues me greatly. Generally speaking I tend to dose alone as a result. One day I hope to actually have a ++++ experience and discover something profoundly unique about life/death/myself/ego/id/superego (death I'm not afraid of either, as it works out, in fact I embrace death as part of life--we all have our own expiration dates, and thusly, every day alive is a great day since likely we won't have knowledge of, memories of, or even a comprehension of what our lives were before death since likely, life just snuffs out and no god, most likely, is gonna be there to catch ya when ya fall to the soil to rest eternally).

I doubt I'll be the lucky chap to have a Shulgin ++++, but ya never know!

Well, back to this universe, this planet, this country (USA), and this life where like you, drugs have played an intrinsic role in my life since I was a young and reckless kid, I can honestly say that I don't regret a day of it, not even the day of my worst trip ever that sent me packing away from psychs for several years (even weed for a while there).

But we both know (and you probably don't suffer from addictions, at least for your sake I'd hope you're not in my shoes. I may have PTSD and may have a broken back, but the drugs, like last night, tend to have "a mind of their own" and I feel serious withdrawal without them; there are pros and cons to taking them, that's the biggest con. The biggest pro is that I feel elated when I'm high. Not a day goes by that I don't think about the setbacks of my conditions, both physical and mental, as well as my chem. dependencies however.

Thing is, from all I've read, what with there being a casualty rate of 1/300 peeps who take iboga, esp. those of us with addiction issues assoc. w/ opiates/opioids, and then the fact that I have high-ish blood pressure, I could easily see myself die from an iboga trial. So I have my reservations and keep deliberating over whether or not I'll apply to the free ibogaine clinic up in Vancouver, B.C. I do have legit pain issues, but I also have some wicked addictions (speaking of, I dunno even if ibogaine can break benzo habits or not, but that's one habit I've got aside from pain pills). So I'm torn on that one.

Would you be a dear and give me all the positive *AND* negative effects you've experienced from iboga? I'd really appreciate some second-hand knowledge as opposed to just having read this or that off of websites that mainly tout the good and talk little of the dangers inherent with iboga/ibogaine. Surely you have a keen awareness of what the stuff does if you've committed to doing it before. I have a means of getting the bark should I want to try it, so no worries, I'm not asking for your source. I'm just asking for, hrmmm, I guess more than a trip report per se, rather, a life-changing report since it seems to have that effect rather well regardless of whether or not you suffer from addictions or not. It seems that all who dose ibogaine or iboga root come out the other end different people, more complete, holistic people. Is that all a sham or the real deal? I'm very, very curious about iboga/ibogaine!

Thank you in advance for anything you have to say about it

I guess ultimately I wanna know if this stuff is right for me, 'cause from what I gather, even if you're a serious psychonaut or not, it sure ain't right for everyone. I think you're one of the lucky ones if it works out so well for you!

I won't lie, I *do* like getting high and *do* use some not-so-good things from time to time and have even gotten in over my head in the past, but, in spite of this I have no shame about it. I don't even know if ibogaine would stave that all off for good, or simply lessen my cravings... who knows.

It simply is what it is, like my broken back or the series of lifelong events that ultimately led to my development of full borne PTSD which included the death of my lover of six and half years ago. Ideally, and who knows, maybe eventually I'll move past this phase and really only take drugs that invoke positive change. Like iboga, for instance. Or LSD, marijuana, psilocybin mushrooms, X, and the DO-x or 2C-x series of drugs.

In moderation, though, rather than how as a teen I did acid/'shrooms: Then it was basically like a contest with my friends to see who'd come the closest to wigging out like Syd Barrett--haha, ultimately it was me first. for about two and a half, three years I was dosing for shits and giggles around three or four times a week at high dosage levels (like 1200 micrograms... Up all night communing with the stars, and in the day living as a teen but playing like a boy who really did find an Indian in the Cupboard, was chased to the attic to fall 'into' The Neverending Story, walked along the Yellow Brick Road to see the Wizard of Oz, scurried around with a host of beasties in a Jungle Book and sometimes just daydreamed in the Wind in the Willows along with a spider and a pig, the former named Charlotte, with her own little corner of the world, Charlotte's Web... I was outta control, I was/somewhat still am full-on nuts, or so they insinuate (and all because I preferred to live those fantasies, I wanted to *be* Syd Barrett or Jim Morrison, oh yes, I was indeed a lost soul until I lost my marbles for a while there for real, took a clean break, restructured my life, and have now made goals to become somebody I can smile to daily in the mirror, with a lil' guidance now and again by a great shrink who while down south was great enough to help me by writing scripts for medicinal marijuana plus my own clandestine voyages into my psyche via psychedelics and empathogens (with a heavier emphasis on the latter).

Truth be told, tho', I still couldn't tell ya what I wanna be when I grow up: I think it's still a tie between astronaut, cowboy, and pirate, like when I was four years old looking up at the world in awe and wonderment!

Well, long story short, I too am thinking about taking iboga; aside from the free ibogaine clinic, I know where to buy the root (in fact, I can buy peyote cacti from this same vendor), so like I said, worry not, I just want your story(ies) in relation to both iboga and ayahuasca, assuming you've done the latter. Hell, I'd so dig it to hear all manner of stories of either psychedelic ritualistic undertaking, so please folks, tell me your stories (and worry not about me asking for ayahuasca sources; I have several and trust two the most). Also, has anyone ever had experience with pure Salvinorin A in its crystal form?

Cheers y'all from one nut job that writes hella long posts that prob'ly ain't gonna be read by like 90% of the forums, but it's cathartic, and, if the right people *DO* read this, those actions will have satisfied the reason I wrote this tome. :window:

 

the time I took salvia outside was the only time I saw an entity on it and the salvia gravity bodyhigh seemed to have a unique dimension to it outdoors that's not present indoors. I'm glad that there are others who enjoy salvia. Some people seem to hold it in a negative light even going so far as to call it 'shit'. I can understand not enjoying its effects but I think considering the absurd drug laws we are spoiled to have such a powerful, mind bending, mostly legal entheogen at our disposal.

 

to cosmo
Wow thanks for sharing so much of your thoughts.. As someone who used to be addicted to pills, and herion and crap. bc of my chronic pain problems. I am clean, and iboga can definitely help with that, it is told to help cut the cravings of the drugs. It helps me a ton. but I do it mostly for hte spiritual now. and yes ibogaine like anything else can kill you, but it is not that common and very rare. I took ibogaine, a few years ago, and it was th emost lifechanging, it made me see my life in an realm of flashing before my eyes, and things are better, now after what I have seen, told me what I needed to fix in my life. I didnt have any bad effects from it honestly, it was one of the best things Iever did. My experience gave me mroe faith in the spirits, bc they told me many thing s on my 2nd ibogaine trip. I have done it more than once, and I am doing it again this week. It helps you find out what you need in life, but the plant spirit as I believe it in ibogaine will always show you what you need to know vision wise. for the spiritual and even physcial addictions it is an god send. and amazing!!! that is my 2 cents. I wouldnt believe too much crap about it killing people, I have actually known quite a few people with problems especially who have addictions that did nto die after taking it.

 

thanks for sharing your experiences with that substance with me, I really do think I'll look into iboga/ibogaine (one or the other... I just need to find a "sitter" to watch over me so that I don't get hurt, unless that too is over-exaggerated by the Internerd).

P.S. You're welcome, I never gave a proper intro when I joined this site, I s'pose that post suffices since it tells a good chunk of my core beliefs and a good chunk about who I am and what I've been through in my lifetime.

 

Welcome, you haven't gone unnoticed.