Give respect where respect is due

X2

guerilla, i hope you weren't referring to me when you mentioned people calling salvia "shit." i am guilty of that, but my context was more like "that shit is insane" than "that shit is garbage"

doesn't mean i won't maybe throw that crazy shit in the garbage though

 

haha! No I wasn't referring to you, I don't even remember who it was to be honest but I do remember it was shortly following your breakthrough experience. I need to go back to that head shop and see if they still carry it, I may want it if its only going to end up in the garbage.

 

noted

 

so pork how did 2ce and minus the bear go the other night? I haven't seen you say much except that you shook the singers hand which is pretty badass.

 

it was good. i dosed around 5:20, felt alerts around 6, but really came up around 7 probably. i was gonna go for my usual walk in the park, but it was seriously too fuckin hot. my friend came over and we vaped some weed. that's when i posted in the bump thread "this is already awesome" as i was getting great visuals on my vape bag. as it was filling it was morphing in a psychedelic way. i got a lot of sparkling effects too, which continued at the concert.

we went to the concert and it was crowded as fuck. i had been to the venue before, but this time, half of it was closed off - the larger half! my friend asked me "how does that stuff do around lots of people?" i laughed and said "fine." i mean, it's just a concert, if it was work or something, then it'd be another story.

the opening band was decent, and minus the bear played awesome. i didn't really feel like i was getting much musical enhancement that i'm used to with 2ce though. i did have slight visuals the whole time and color enhancement. i recall a certain light on the ceiling looking like a firework several times. as well as the light rays coming off other lights (normally you see them when you squint), and looking like horizontal lines draping over everything. i danced much more than i usually do at concerts and has slight CEVs when i checked, but not as good as i'm used to. i liked closing my eyes in order to hear the music better.

i think the heat took away from my trip, and i kinda thought like i could feel my brain cells overheating

when the show ended we were walking to the car and i saw the singer sitting on the steps having a cig. i walked up to him and asked if he could sign my wristband, but he didn't hear me. he just kinda reached out to shake my hand and i said they played awesome and it was awesome to see them.
"thanks, man" (that's him in a cool, calm, stoney voice
then i asked if he had a marker, to which he said "nah man, i don't"

riding in the car through the city at night was pretty good looking and shortly after i got home around midnight maybe i was pretty much "down" i had a few bites of food, hit the vape, took a cold shower, and the dreaded stomach knot and back of the head headache set it. the headache especially carried into the next morning.

also to note - before i showered i tried to take a piss. it was quite difficult, and in the shower, the head of my dick felt really awkward. like it was inside out or something bizzare. i've felt weirdness and detachment from my GI on 2ce before, but never from that region. it seems to do some fucked up stuff to my guts, and i'm gonna at least not take it for awhile. maybe be done with it

 

I completely agree in which most people can't, as well as choose not to handle psychedelics. I'll tell you what, when my minds "filters" were lifted for the first time I definitely did crash though some boundaries, and got some major mind fucks. Psychedelics has always interested me, even from a young age. I for some reason, enjoy exploring the depths of my mind in great vivid detail. I guess in the end my goal is to understand more about who I am, what I will do, what I am here for, but really the most important question is, where are we (in the universe)?

 

That sounds pretty legit pork minus the gi and pissing problems.
I want to give 2ce one more shot as well at a heroic dose and see where things go from there. I definitely think I prefer 4-aco-dmt over it and as far as recreation goes 2ci is pretty good although I occasionally get a headache with that one.

 

I can't say that pushing the envelope has given me any more than a night I can barely remember. But it is always a blast

 

I'll be dosing both of those together in the not-so-distant future; a TR is forthcoming! I'm fuckin' excited as all hell

I think I may have said something about this in either another forum, site, or thread, can't recall quite rightly though. But yeah man, gonna do an 8 mg bump insufflated of each followed by one of each either orally or rectally prob'ly like 20-30 min. later and measured out to 25 mg in gelatin capsules.

I actually wanna try anal administration of them suckers, as that would be entirely new to me having never taken anything anally, I just wanna make damned certain that a gelatin capsule would actually melt in one's anal cavity.

I wonder how many folks have done either of these anally and, if gel caps actually will dissolve in the bum... hmmm

 

I've done 2ce and 4-aco-Dmt anally but I used a syringe with the needle removed both times.

I have no comparison with 4-aco yet but for 2ce the visuals are much smoother this way, hard to explain, I feel uncomfortable everytime I do this roa but its very effective and I prefer it over insuffalation cause it still gives that flowly trip of oral ingestion opposed to being sent directly to peak in like 5 minutes.

 

no kidding