Pure Salvinorin A. Injection.

His body probably gave off so much sweat, he drowned in a small pool of it while tripping.

 

Just gonna burn a few here.
A.) Overkill.
B.) Red knows all about salvia, listen and accept.
c.) "Anyone that injects anything for any reason besides full prescribed medicinal purposes is a fucking IDIOT" - "<----Open--Your--Mind---->" - Um, I don't really dig the whole injection thing either, but that seems pretty close-minded to me.

 

Open your mind; feed your head; take a trip; live-love : A few expressions I use from time to time, neither of them is pro-injecting.
Just because I have some words in my signature which I relate to taking tryptamines and tripping out - reaching different levels of conciousness and taking roads in my mind I haven't taken before - it doesn't mean I should open my mind to accept everything including Terrorists, Smack Heads and camp men!
I stand by what I said earlier, don't patronise me by branding that as a 'closed mind' because, believe me; I am FAR from that.

 

i think it is kind of closed minded. what do terrorists have to do with anything? i don't know what your personal experience is, but it seems like you're just judging things as right or wrong automatically without really looking into the reasons. i'm just assuming... you don't like injection because it reminds you of heroin, right? and heroin is different from your drugs of choice that take you down roads in your mind you haven't traveled before because.... it's derived from poppies, which are a lot worse than a mint plant or a fungus or an herb or whatever's on your menu at the time.

it sounds like you're buying into hype instead of what is factually happening. salvia and heroin will never be comparable, no matter how you get them in your body, but it really doesn't matter, it doesn't make one better than the other. and it doesn't make one process of ingestion better or worse than any other. one is just more efficient if you know how to do it correctly. that doesn't mean i want to inject anything into myself, but i'm not looking down my nose at people who do and calling them an idiot. and i hope you don't feel i'm looking down my nose at you, either, because i'm not. it just bugs me that you're being mean because of ignorance and at the same time advocate other people opening THEIR minds.

((if you didn't mean your sig as a message to others then i'm sorry i assumed that))

i think you'd rather just expand your mind than open it all the way. or make a crack in it so some light can shine through, but not so much that you go blind and have to learn how to see all over again.

 

Gah. This is going to be offtopic. But this is the only true and great thing about the universe that is making me mad. Nobody can never be right or wrong. There is no "truth" to be found because there are just far too many of them... if one could put it all in one single truth... i am afraid i can't.

Enough about offtopic... i don't judge people by what or how they take a drug. I actually respect heroin addicts in a twisted way. There is no point disliking them for what they do. And it pisses me off how they show those junkies on police shows OD'd somewhere in the basement. And they have no idea who the guy was, where he has been, how he talked, moved, laughed... they just take what they see and build up some strange prejudice in their little heads. **** that's still pretty much offtopic but... that's what i felt while writing this.

I think it's okay to inject salvia into the vein if it gets you where you need to go. I wouldn't do it though.

 

I'm not gonna get into a big argument, but you shouldn't write injection off as sketchy if it is done properly, and with respect. It needs a micron filter, it needs a clean needle, and it needs a pure chemical.

I am talking purely about injection of psychedelics. I suppose you could argue that injecting would lead to other more hardcore drugs, but that isn't an inherent flaw in injection itself. It is more of a flaw in the fact that it is so efficient & fast and that it is the preferred method of abuse of people who can't afford the drugs they are using, or people who want more of the rush of an addictive substance.

Some of you feel strongly about IVing drugs because you know heroin users etc. I am purely talking about inject as a method of administration for drugs... not about how it is more addictive for addictive substances, or how it is often practiced in unsanitary ways. However, these are both things you need to think about before injecting anything.

All I'm saying is don't just put it off as a sketchy and lowly way of taking drugs. It can be legitimate... it just usually is not.

 

holy shit man your fucking crazy....ill never smoke that shit agian and people are actually interested in shootin it......and here i thought i was fuckin crazy, i would never have the balls to slam that shit, kudos to you

 

Wow, nice!
Much appreciation towards your constructive criticism.
Hm, I wouldn't say I don't like injection because it reminds me of Heroin; and as for poppies being much worse than fungi and herbs, it has nothing to do with that. I've smoked Opium in the past a few times and it's not the family that Heroin belongs to; it's the method it's taken. In fact, when it comes to medicine I am in favour of injecting as it is the quickest acting method of treatment/immunity; however my negative feelings on the subject are caused by the recreational side. Not necessarily because of the drug itself, but injecting drugs can cause the collapse of veins (most noticeably for Herroin users). Even when done 'properly' I still think it poses as a hazard and perhaps those who are doing it should open their minds up to what they're doing to their bodies.
The general methods of injecting could be favoured by the user, putting them in the position of wanting to do it more frequently, and frequent recreational injection can not be 'safe'. Though I'm not trying to say injecting salvia or another psych will necessarily lead to a prevailing Heroin addiction, once someone is used to getting a buzz off drugs by injecting, Heroin is much closer to home. Try to understand my logic here rather than branding me as the stereotypical anti-smackhead type, digging up bullshit reasons to try and persuade people to quit: someone who's already used to the method of injecting is MORE LIKELY (not inevitably) going to have thoughts along the line of 'Hm well I'm comfortable with injecting to get off; I wonder what Heroin's like' or of a similar nature than a person who doesn't inject at all.
Admittedly, calling people who inject to get fucked up 'idiots' is a bit close minded on my part; but that's the way I fucking see it, sorry! To me it signifies a lack of care for personal health. There are plenty of other ways to take drugs - injecting just makes the onset instant I guess - but what's the problem in waiting for the drug(s) to kick in, enjoying those first effects before they increase to a plateau? Patience is a virtue; especially in this sense.
I thank you once again for not looking down your nose at me and posting constructive criticism.

 

this thread example to treat kids more tenderly. but shit i don't need. (% off my head)

you. all you. is nuts to trip on Sally.

 

What on Earth is THIS abomination?? It's not even legible! (??)

 

LOL! You, you who're preaching to the FUCKING WORLD against a potentially risky ROA, but, that if done with clean rigs and likewise, done correctly and with clean drugs poses little threat (again, it's only potentially risky), you drink and smoke all day??! Give the guy a gold medal y'all for being either TOTALLY oblivious and/or for being a hypocrite: Talk about being unhealthy!! Just because you put it in your mouth and swallow/inhale it doesn't make it smarter/cleaner/healthier... IN FACT!!! Smoking things is MUCH more unhealthy than slamming them; depending on the substance of course.

And good word, drinking ALL DAY? You invalidated your entire argument about health risks; that's one of the riskiest things a person can do to their body; all that liver and kidney damage and you have the audacity to yammer about the risks of shooting up?!!! HAHAHA! You crack me up, man.

Now then, that all said, I'd be SUPER wary myself of shooting this *particular* substance. It comes on so fast when smoked as it is (rather, in this case I mean to say that S. divinorum does), granted I've never had a +++ experience from it ("it" not being Salvinorin A but like 40X S. divinorum or something like that, as I mentioned in a round-about way elsewhere in another thread), but have had, oh, a +1/2~++ experience a few times from it (albeit very short-lived, lasting all of ten, maybe fifteen min.) but I'd bet the world that shooting PURE Salvinorin A even at a carefully measured amount on a super expensive scale that weighs out in micrograms, you'd black out or start tripping *SO HARD*, *SO FAST* you'd need a sitter to deliver the shot into your vein, and then to remove the needle.

With something this potentially powerful, it would be very, very irresponsible to not have someone standing by to aid you. For that matter, so too would be the case with shooting up something like DMT.

Anyway, I agree with a few of the other posters to this thread that you simply cannot get the same experience from eating/smoking/insufflating/etc. some drugs as you do when you bang 'em. But jeepers creepers, even without much risk assoc. w/ Salvinorin A when shot up into lab mice, yeah, w/out a sitter, shooting this shit would not necessarily be that wise. You probably wouldn't wanna come to ten, twenty, whatever number of minutes later to find a syringe dangling painfully from your vein, likely by then torn to shit and bleeding out, or even broken off in your arm. Eek

The thought of that gives me the willies!

NOW THEN... off to go find some smack, coke, and a BIG fuckin' needle to jab into my arm!!! j/k... maybe... LOL!

 

sir, and you invalidated your entire argument when you decided to argue with something someone said THREE YEARS AGO (wtf?)

anyway, i'd love to know if the guy really injected salvinorin in himself, holy crap.

 

Meh, didn't see that it was that old... this just mainly caught my eye when searching for a method to extract salvinorin-A from S. divinorum after an exhaustive search for the stuff around the web. Anywhooo..... lol, you may have a point that I was beating a dead horse, sure, I'll agree with that; but I don't think my point of view on that weird argument they had WAYYYYY back when is "invalid", just... out of place/context anymore.

I wonder what happened to that fellah, too. Damn. Some people will do the darnedest things. Holy crap is right!

 

The fact that its 3 years old and he was determined to inject the stuff and we never herd from him again says it all I think.

 

you can't die on salvia.... i guess.

 

wow, someones gonna have a carpule tunnel before the week is over..

 

It's carpal, & I've had it for years already. You're so sly, so deadpan, so snarky.

Wait!

Don't say it...

I know, I know...

"So what..." Beat you to your own punchline.

 

i spell it wrong all teh time, even though ive seen it a million times on diagnosis forms. .

 

If you had all the equipment (mcg scale, etc.) AND knew with a great amount of certainty the purity then injecting would be the way to go, but for the rest of us it is insane.