Militant atheism is a joke.

The Tao that can be named is not the eternal Tao. (Lao Tsu)


If you meet the Buddha, kill him. (Zen Master Linji, founder of the Rinzai sect).



ZW

 

lol The what sorry?

lol Why?! Don't blame the Buddha that you had to found an insect.

The wisdom of the ages is so often not.


Religions can be taken in single gulps with the right appetite. Indigestion is nothing but apprehension. We are hardly predisposed to make something of our shitting them out of the picture.

 

^^^

The Tao (path) that can be named is not the eternal Tao.

If you meet the Buddha, kill him.
(Whatever your conception is of the Buddha, it's WRONG! kill it!)


ZW

 

Then you have not understood the transient nature of naming.

lol Religions have to be prohibitive or they cease to exist.

Kill your own bit of buddha yourself if it bugs you!

 

...zzzz

 

Odd, I don't believe in any form of god... Quite often I am described as an atheist (in politer company) although I think it is a very rare thing that I make such a claim (about being an atheist), and likely only happens when I'm filling out some form that I couldn't avoid...

I can understand the OPs point about if you go around declaring yourself an atheist at every opportunity (which could be what he meant by 'militant atheist', but only in that case... Follows along the same lines as what I say about people using 'coming out' as a social agenda rather then just being who they are.

However, to say that all people who are labeled as atheists (militant or otherwise), or as christians or as buddhists, think one thing (including the absence of a (or all) beliefs, is just about most closed minded thing I have seen said in this thread.

In regards to;

It was just yesterday or the day before that the last religious person came out this way in order to 'save me'...

He knocked on the door, I opened it, he said something about it being a beautiful day and that they were out today to share the word of god with me...

I smiled a little tight smile and said, "have a nice day"

He smile back and said, "You have a nice day too", and walked away.

Regardless of what their opening line is, they get the same answer... if they do anything beyond accept that and walk away, they get told (politely, because in their mind they are trying to help), that I am not interested...

If they choose to persist past that point, they get to discover the side of me that so many around here love so much, because that is as much patience as I have for people who go around pushing their beliefs on people at random.

At that point, they get told in no uncertain terms to get the fuck off my property and to never return upon the threat of violence...

You know what else? If a person came up and knocked on my door, and said, "I'd like to talk to you about the absence of god (or some other such thing) they would get the same process.

If what the OP was trying to say (which it seems he was in the second part of what he said), was that IF you feel you need to make an issue out of not believing in a god, then you are granting as much validity to the issue as a believer, I agree...

However, the first line, which is the one that sparked me to respond at all, of;

This only makes sense if you are talking about some form of organized atheism. I guess this would be a group that gathers once a week to decry the existence of gods? Which as far as I know, doesn't happen (although it may).

Okay, after typing that, I was curious, so I did a google search... apparently, there ARE organized groups of atheists...

The only thing I can say to that, is that you won't catch me going to any meetings...

Well, that, and I may go bang my head on a tree for a bit now...

edited to add... I actually meant that to be a quick response??? lol

 

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Yes. I tried to write something here and He refused me for the unconscious reason that I can't solve the quote wrap thing. It was about Jurisprudens, brother, anyway. Jurisprudens stays the same as human nature seems to be changing these days.

 

I think those religions are only Atheist when they conclude that Human Nature is realized to be changing. Is it to any one person's point of view? Surely that was a detached Fish. That's it!

We can get one of those in courts of Law.

 

Well, don't be so quick.

The only form of organized atheism that I know anything about is secular humanism, started by the late and great Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

The point of it is that humanism and good will can be completely secular. I can't imagine exactly what goes on at meetings - but sounds pretty cool to me =)

 

I'd rather go to a meeting of that was just called 'the stoned earthlings'...

 

Me too, actually =D

 

A news reporter once asked a Zen master, Philip Kapleau, what Zen (Buddhism) says about God. Kapleau just sat there silently until the next question was asked.

 

I was thinking it was some kind of ritualized group sex, but I could be wrong.

 

Would this be the dawning of the stoned age?

 

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The truth does not need to be believed to be what it is. Belief never contends with the truth, only other beliefs.

 

Quire here.

 

:eggnog: completely support. i am an atheist and would not like to be proven wrong. Lets say hypothetically someone proved god was real. On the other hand, what if he was proved to not be real? At this point in time each of our views have no proof to back up on. There is no front up proof saying god is real, or god is not real.

 

Wouldn't like to be proven wrong? thats strange.

There is no reason to assert gods existence in the first place, so its already in league with all the other ideas that have been proven wrong.

 

I am an atheist and belong to a group. We don't get together and talk about how wrong it is to believe in a deity though.

There are much more important things to talk about as atheists such as how to recover our own sanity in the aftermath of religious "upbringings" (brainwashings) or how best to go about fighting against the oppression inflicted by religion upon children, gays, women and anyone who does not believe.

I think if religion never hurt anyone we wouldn't need to call ourselves "atheists" but as long as there are people being hurt by organized religion, then the non-believers need to organize as well to fight the oppression.