Trying for the first time tomorrow...

Tomorrow two friends and I are going to pick up some salvia downtown as it's still legal here. I've done a lot of research, otherwise I would never touch it. Is there any advice you guys have for first timers though? What should I buy for example? 10x?

And of course, there's the infamous bad trip. I'm a little worried about it since salvia is my first psychedelic. I've done a LOT of research on how to prevent bad trips and how to handle them if you have one. Any tips on that? Thanks guys.

 

you should buy a hooker instead. theres something youll be talking about for a long time.. you might not even get off on salvia .. you will with a hooker..

 

do not worry about bad trips when it comes to salvia. it only lasts a few minutes.

my advice for first time is take a legitimate hit. which means use the whole bowl (or least the majority of the bowl) all in one, or two hits, holding it in as long as possible. and bongs work better.

as for X's doesnt matter that much, but most people do 20x or 30x.

 

Sure get 10x, get a piece of herb like mugwort, weed or whatever to clog the stem hole so the salvia doesn't fall through when you light it. Keep the flame on it the whole time you are smoking it and take 2 large hits, even if you are feeling it a little bit after the first hit , take the 2nd hit.

Have someone watch over you and be seated or lay down after the 2nd hit, it's best in dim light ime.

If you do 20x, one large hit should be enough.

 

Alright, I'll just get some 20x then. The only reason I said 10x is because I wasn't entirely sure if 20x would be too much for a beginner. I smoke plenty of weed but that's all I've done so I'm very interested to see what a trip is like.

I know it's only a few minutes, but from what I've read, having a bad trip isn't fun regardless of how long it lasts. People seem to act like salvia gives more bad trips than other drugs though. Any insight on that?

 

Alot of people find the body trip to be uncomfortable. Also on a good trip your whole reality is essentially replaced so having everything replaced in the span of secconds is a bit unnerving to many people. Go for a huge hit though its not one of those things to like try to take babysteps into or get accustomed to. Once you past a certain threshold you are in salvialand and nothing said here will really carry over. I can't emphasize enough to take a big hit and keep the flame on it while you're inhaling, you're not smoking weed but weed lungs do help.

 

Ok, thanks. I'll remember that; big hit, keep the flame on.

Since it's not a baby steps thing, would it not be good to take a hit of 10x and see how it feels, then take another hit? That sounds nice but if it's not something you should do gradually then I'll just get some 20x and take one big hit of that.

 

no you can't really stagger the dose like that because if you don't get it within like 45 seconds or so you're not going to feel anything more intense after, just go for the 20x and take a huge rip.

 

10x or 20x is about right.

one huge hit and, important: hold it! you have to hold the smoke in your lungs for as long as you can. and definitely use a water bong, definitely.

don't worry about the bad trips. you have to let it go, the most profound salvia journeys are essentially bad trips, don't be afraid of them. just make sure you have a trip sitter so you don't get up and start destroying things.

 

thats cuz salvia, compared to other psychedelics like acid, shrooms, etc. is more uncomfortable. just try it out and you'll know what i'm talkin about.

 

yeah when you do salvia there is no way to NOT have a bad trip in my experience; that's just the nature of salvia - it's not a normal psychedelic like mushrooms, DMT, or LSD.

I'd recommend 20x, and smoke as much as you can as QUICKLY as you can - it won't work if you smoke half of it one minute, and then half the next.

a sitter is ABSOLUTELY necessary, you could seriously injure yourself if you have an intense trip and you're alone (even on breakthrough trips I'll stand up and wander around with NO idea whatsoever what's going on, make sure they grab the bong / pipe from you).

 

ehhh I know plenty of people including myself who have had great trips on it. This buddy of mine never even smoked weed before and tried salvia and loved it. I think telling the guy there is nothing but bad trips from it is terrible advice for him going into it and more to the point is flat out wrong.

 

Thanks for all the help guys. Today is the big day. One more question though. How much should I pack into the bowl? I know to take one big hit, but should I fill the bowl halfway or what?

 

pack it pretty much full since its your first time remember put some sort of herb or something to clog the stem hole.

 

i followed guerilla's advice.

10X, in a water bong, flame on the whole time. first hit was pretty big and i held it for a good 20-30 seconds (longer than i hold a hit of weed). i felt seriously weird after the first one, but i took a 2nd smaller hit and finished what was in the bong. i only packed my small slider about 1/2 or 3/4 of the way full though.

my trip was insanely frightening and i guess "bad" but it only lasted ~5 minutes. after effects were tingly legs, a slight body high which lasted another half hour or so and SHOCK! which continues to this day.

for the trip itself - i was taken to a completely different place in my mind. i could not see the actual room around me or my trip sitter. thank god i chose to have one, or i probably would have thrown my bong on my laptop and rolled around in it. as it was, i still flipped around on my couch, screaming and got a goose-egg on my head.

 

I tried it in my glass pipe to get used to the effects before attempting to break through with a bong. I felt extremely high and I liked it but I'm reconsidering trying it with a bong. It seems like every time I read about somebody trying salvia they have an experience like the one above. I think I'll hold off a while, especially since I may be able to get some LSD soon.

Also instead of 10x or 20x and such, the place I went to only had this Salvia Zone bullshit. I got yellow; not sure what strength that corresponds to.

 

Bad effort!

 

yea i smoked it incorrectly twice before too.

you didn't "breakthrough"

 

Bought some 10x right before it became illegal here and I will never try it again. I, like the OP, had never tried psychedelics before. The body high was the most uncomfortable burning sensation ever. It felt like when your foot falls asleep, but all over. anything that touched my skin would make the sensation worse. So, I tried ripping my clothes off. The mental high was interesting, but didn't last long enough to go anywhere.

 

^^^interesting. the body high i got was minimal compared to what it did to my mind. i probably won't do it again either.