"Proud To Be An American" Shirts

I'm not completely sure if this belongs in this forum, but I'm taking a guesse that it does. I have recently tried to look at all these Pro-USA shirts, to see exactly where they are made, sadly, all the ignorant rednecks seem to have bought them all up. My uncle had one though, so I looked on its tag and it said it was made in the U.S.A. however, this doesn't neccesarly mean they all are. I was wonderiing if I could gain assistance from anyone on solving this. Well, too-da-loo.

 

They're probably not. They were probably made in sweatshops somewhere by 5 year old children. Pretty sad.

 

Yeah it is sad, and it would make all those idiot fuckers waving flags in our faces such hypocrits.

 

yeah i know, i feel sorry for ignorant people, and the sad thing is some of these people know the behind the scenes stuff that happens in our country and they still don't feel bad

 

Yeah, it's pretty depressing.

 

hah. I remember when 9/11 happened, all these lame fuckers were putting flags on their cars. If I had a nickel for every time I saw some pos asian car shrouded in cheap americana. These people are fucking pathetic.

 

agreed

 

John Stewart? I dont' watch much t.v. I must adimit that I find it rather boring but anyway.... don't you have some magnetic thing to stick to your car or something. come on now get going, time is of the essence. Besides I go a better t-shirt. we got tourist shirts.
Fat American

 

Me and my father just returned from a store nearby. While we were there I managed to look at the tags of about 5 "American" shirts, all of them were made in foreign countries.

 

Yeah, ironic isn't it? I love to hear all the reasons those people give when you confront them too. Those things are made in Honduras, you're not supporting American workers..... reply: but that's because America keeps up good relations with the rest of the world ... I see, what a fool I have been.

 

Skuse me....why?
Is it that the car is asian and the flag is american?

I don't follow....what's your meaning?

 

People pay the big bucks for foreign goods (hurting US workers) while buying cheap goods like car flags to show they love their country. If they loved their country, the would buy American. And they would not support the government when it does things that make the foreign goods so cheap (eg: free trade instead of fair trade). It's a whole web of people being patriotic because it's trendy.

 

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Originally written by TrippenBTM:

People pay the big bucks for foreign goods (hurting US workers) while buying cheap goods like car flags to show they love their country. If they loved their country, the would buy American. And they would not support the government when it does things that make the foreign goods so cheap (eg: free trade instead of fair trade). It's a whole web of people being patriotic because it's trendy....


As a reply:

The trade disparity that you speak of is a system that is propagagted in the main part by the US government, albeit with a very large 'finger' in their back from so called multinational corporations. Who benefit greatly by the free movement of goods. Take for example Shanghai Automotive, which is majority owned by GM Motors of the US, Shanghai recently bought up a large European car firm called Rover to add to GM's brands. Likewise the intellectual property rights secured by these free trade systems help the US economy. The disparity between what you call 'foreign goods' and presumably your domestic manufacture is in many cases simply a matter of a US corporation taking advantage of cheap labour in (again I'm using China as a theme example, but it's not the only) the products of which are shipped back to the American consumer and sold at an inflated profit. It's a system that works well for the US. Just because a t-shirt has 'made in Taiwan' on it, doesn't mean the Taiwanese are shafting you. But as to be fair, it's not America on it's own. Europe is just as guilty, as is Australia and most of the W.T.O.
As for the 'trendy patriotism', at the risk of sounding condescending, patriotism is by definition a populist contrivance, it's a tribalism that makes people feel secure and part of a collective. That's why national rivalries continue and sterotypes prevail, even between countries that are meant to be allies. Take America and France for example, some of the retoric I've heard wouldn't be out of place on a propaganda banner from the 1940's.
When it's all said and done, it seems we (that is assuming we both agree that patriotism is wrong) are in the minority. All we can do is question people, as to why they are so sure 'their' country is better than the next. And hopefully through some applied logic they may see that in the final conclusion, we're all the same.

 

coulden't have said it better myself

 

Let me ask you this. Where was the computer you spend hours bang the keys on made?


Think about it! We all do it

 

Honestly, I'm not sure where it was made, but seeing as how I didn't buy it, my mom did, I'm guiltless. However, I do plan on building my own computer sometime soon, but first I must get one of those damn How-To books, and the money to buy the parts.

 

Guiltless? Don't think so. First off No your computer was NOT made in the USA and 2 you could choose to not use it in "protest". Has nothing to do with who perchased it.

 

Is his computer decorated in Red, White, and Blue? Does it say "Proud to be An American?" with a big stupid plastic sticker? Is he walking around with it under his arm and shouting out how great his 'nationalism' is? "I'm an American, Look at me I got a dumbass dell with a mobo ful of components made in countries I can't pronounce, but fug you cuz I bought it at an American store"?

No. He's using it to communicate his observation of the hippocritical nature of a blind society. T-shirts, plastic stickers, etc... cheap gimmicks where most of these 'Americans' never bother to look past the made in... No they're too busy joining the slopfest at the trough and rolling in the mud. T-shirts, wobbly heads ( or whatever the hell you call em), bumper stickers, even boxer shorts have very little to do with this cats computer/pile of pcb's and wires.

(btw. off topic. Shadow. Send me a pm and I'll hook you up with a book. Might even help you with parts and tools.
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