Best RC Combo for MDMA effect

I am new to the Hip Forums and new to research chemicals, but after reading some of the threads posted here, I am curious in possibly trying some out. I have done plenty of MDMA, LSD, Ketimine, and other mainstream drugs many years ago, but I never ventured into the realm of these synthetic analogues and such. I never was too into LSD or Mescaline but I loved MDMA.

I was wondering if anyone had a recommendation on which RCs would produces a very similar or identical effect as MDMA? I read that bk-MDMA and Mephadrone was pretty close, but I also read that 5-meo-amt can feel similar as well.

I am not looking for any psychedelic effects. I am hoping to just reproduce the intense euphoric body feeling with the sense of energy and happiness. I was extremely spoiled back in the late 90s and very early 2000s with some outstanding rolls, and I am trying to chase that feeling again.

Any advice or recommendations is greatly appreciated.

 

Mephedrone will probably be the closest if you are looking for the energy and euphoria, Mephedrone is a good high but it makes me feel pretty stupid. My friend vomited on it the first time she tried it, just something i should warn you so you don't freak out if it happens and I have no clue why I don't really get nauseous on it but it does hit pretty hard.

Methylone is more appealing to me, a little more relaxed than mdma and just a feeling of being content but not necessarily all happy and lovey dovey.

you can mix them and some people think the combo even surpasses actual MDMA, I have no experience with the combo at the same time though. What I have tended to do is take Mephedrone and then when i'm coming off take methylone, it kind of mimics the length of Ecstasy that way and I still get to experience each substance separately with a little overlap period.

 

If you want to feel like your on MDMA, your going to have to find MDMA.

Analogs will come close, but they are imitators. And the risk factor seems to great with most 'feel-good' research chemicals; at least for me.

 

Mephedrone and methylone are not imitators to me at all, they are very valid drugs in their own right.

I can't speak about mephedrone's risk factors since I haven't used it that much but I've used a fair amount of methylone and it's probably about as toxic as mdma maybe even less so. The comedown and following day(s) sure as hell are not as bad.

 

Yep, mephedrone + methylone = too good!

 

Mephadrone is the closest you'll get but you act like a bit of a fool. As in you can't control what you tell people about yourself hahaha. The risk factors though, it's just bad for you. Like, not MDMA bad or anything. Bad. I've seen people who have taken so much that their noses are all red and rotted so they suck it up through straw with their mouth. Fuckin' disgusting. The comedown is really shit as well and after a couple months of using it you'll probably not like it anymore. Those first couple months though. Jeez louise

 

^yah but you seem to know people who abuse every drug. I just picture you and your friends live together and just have dinner plates piled up with ketamine, mephedrone and weed and you don't even really eat (maybe granola bars in the cupboard).

I'm sure it can get bad but mephedrone is nowhere near as addicting as I was expecting plus I prefer to take it orally. I'm sure its not the greatest thing in the world for you but I think people are buying into sensationalizing the drug like they did with lsd and MDMA. There are potential risks though op and still very little known about it so be cautious if you do experiment with it.

 

Nahhh I don't do that. I just go to a lot of raves and big parties where I see this shit. Some people don't get addicted but I've noticed people who have only smoked weed and shit who jump into mephadrone get addicted. Especially all those rich kids. Orally isn't very good for you dude. It's worse for your stomach than your nose. It fucks up your B12 extraction which leads to fast muscle degeneration and such. But do you want, Debby Downer

 

Wtf? well let me clarify I'm talking about taking it in a pill orally not sucking the shit up through a straw. Link me a scientific study to this muscle degradation problem though I'm interested in reading about it. I can't imagine that being worse then your nose getting so rotted that you can't snort anymore.

 

I'm fairly certain any studies regarding mephedrone and the after effects of ingesting the substance are nonexistant or only short-term studies.

Any serious muscle degradation would have been reported by the thousands of people online who have ingested more than their fair share of mephedrone. Heart palpitations, seizures, etc. are a different story. I've never experienced any of these, however.

 

I know man. Drugs fuck up your stomach. To be honest I'm not 100% sure that mephadrone does that to your stomach but a few doctors have told me cocaine and ketamine have those effects and mephadrone is much worse for you. I've only seen the rotted nose once so I'm guessing that kid took an unheard of amount :ack2:

Edit: The stomach shit only happens later on in your life when you're about 40 or something.

 

well fuck dude don't be passing off all this unproven bullshit as fact when it may not even pertain to this drug. Mephedrone hasn't even been around 10 years, any sort of long term effects of the drug are complete assumptions at this point.

 

^^^
agreed

Doobie60: care to link me to anything that suggests how ketamine does that B12 damage to your stomach?

 

I just heard it from a few doctors. Doctors here know a lot about drugs. It's strange how much they know sometimes haha.

 

As I said, I heard it from multiple doctors. As far as I know that's a pretty reliable source.

 

yeah and some doctors would love to inform you on how "DMT shuts off your pineal gland" - yet is this just fact because some idiot doctor chose to say it?

I know ketamine can cause alot of urinary problems, idk if that is be related to B12 deficiency.

 

Maybe in America but here they're quite honest about drugs.

 

Ok well as I said mephedrone has only been around a few years I guarantee many doctors dont even know what it is and even the most knowledgeable of doctors cannot provide any reliable information on 10-20 year use and abuse of the stuff because it has not been around that long.

 

My experience with mephedrone is pretty limited, but the people who seem to have problems on it are the ones who go on a week long binge. Uhm, yeah do that on X, meth, coke, whatever it's gonna fuck you up.

 

Just take MDMA, otherwise take the drug and let it be what it is. Have fun.