Swim has never taken it before but has watched The Spirit Molecule documentary and watched many people on youtube talking about it. Swim is buying the right stuff to actually extract the DMT from it to get the yellow crystal-like DMT. Apparently needs to take it with a MAOI though. Just mix it with Passionflower then smoke it with a water bong?? Swim really doesn't want to mess it up because I've heard it can posion food you eat which can be very dangerous. Also how much mg of pure DMT would need to mix? Thanks.
Respectfully, my friend, you need to do a bit more research. But, here goes: If you vaporize the DMT you do not need an MAOI. If you want to take the DMT orally and have a longer experience (probably less intense too) you will need an MAOI. This is called pharmahuasca Best way is to carefully vaporize. i recommend the Vaporgenie. i prefer the glass vaporgenie because i can see the vapor coming at me. Burning DMT yields difficult trips IMHO. If you are using a bong you may want to create a layer of herb (passionflower is fine, so is b. caapi, mullein, etc. i wouldn't recommend cannabis because it burns so hot) then place the DMT on top. Some place more herb on top. Some people burn herb first to create a bed of ash. The technique is very difficult - pull the heat from the lighter positioned 1/4 inch above the herb/spice. You want to melt and vaporize/boil the DMT, NOT burn it. Very important. You have heard wrong about poisoning food, problems with eating MAOI's etc. i have posted rather extensively on this elsewhere. Anyway, let me just sum up to say that as long as you are NOT TAKING A PRESCRIPTION MAOI you will be just fine. If you spend a few days eating MAOI heavy foods as i like to do on the weekends, then smoke DMT at the end of it all you can expect lower doses to get you where you are going and you can expect the trance/hyperspace/3D immersive experience to last longer than usual, including breaking the so-called 9-minute limit. Some people intentionally smoke or eat or take sublingual heavy doses of MAOI 30-60 mins before smoking DMT to get enhanced effects - it's called vaporhuasca. i like it but find it to be incredibly intense. If using pure, freebase DMT, it's probably good to begin with a lower dose like maybe 20 mg. Understand that you need to rapidly (under 2 mins) & efficiently (long, slow deep hits with long holds) vape about 50 mg or so to get the FULL effects, known as a breakthrough. i usually recommend new explorers begin lower but have additional doses handy/fixed so that if they like the space they can "stack" doses. That is, when they come out of trance, they can smoke another dose significantly before returning to the baseline state. If you do this you can expect each hit/dose to take you further/deeper than the previous one and you have the option of building up to the breakthrough experience. i hope this helps. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Meow!
if you want to dose orally with an MAOI your best bet is probably syrian rue. i'd suggest smoking it out of a glass pipe.
IMHO Syrian Rue is a witches brew of harmalas and leads me into serious psychotic/mind-fuck type spaces. i want to stress that this is my personal experience and truth be told, i get into psychotic spaces on a lot of days where i take zero milligrams of all substances. But, THH (tetrahydraharmine) and B. Caapi brews seem for me to be a much gentler and clearer experience. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Brrrrrp!
Swim has added up the prices of aparatus and everything else other than the maoi and it came to about £60. Swim is confused about the maoi though and didn't find anywhere to get passion flower. Only seeds. Doesn't know if it has to be dried out too?
Passionflower is a difficult way to fully inhibit MAOI. It sells in herbal shops as dried flowers. You would have to smoke a huge amount or make a reduced tea out of a huge volume. Gracie & Zarkov address this a little bit in their publications from the mid-1980's "Notes From the Underground." If your intention is to fully inhibit MAO for pharmahuasca or vaporhuasca purposes, the easiest ways are buying Syrian Rue seeds and smoking large quantities or making an extraction and smoking or eating it. You can also just take about 2.5 to 4 grams of the seeds, preferrably smashed up. Again, in my opinion it's a witches brew (it has a lot of different beta-carboline molecules) that for me leads to crazy ass mental spaces. More gentle, but still good at fully inhibiting MAO are the B. Caapi teas (i believe one needs to begin with about 50-70 grams of bark, then make a strong, reduced brew for a few hours, including a single drop of lemon once in awhile if preferred) and just plain old THH (tetrahydrahamine) which can be purchased online - takes about 200 mg oral to get the trick done though, so it is a bit expensive. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Purrrr!
Confused now. A brew? swim was thinking the maoi on the water bong, then DMT, then more maoi. Looking for the most spiritual experience I can get so which is the best maoi to get for that when burning on a water bong? What ratio should swim use? 25mg of DMT and how much maoi?
no need to take maoi again after the dmt, won't help, you need to take it before and have it working in your system before you introduce the tryptamine. then it's inside and doing its job.
man DMT is going to blow your mind no matter what....especially if you have never done it before. it seems you guys are making it way to complicated. just put some weed in a glass pipe and put it of top and light and inhale....trust me you will be satified. just like us consumers to always find ways to make things more intense. MORE MORE MORE!
Mr. Writer & starbuck are correct. Again, i respectfully encourage you to research, research, research. By smoking freebase DMT you can easily achieve a full-effects breakthrough WITHOUT an MAOI. If you have never done this before, seriously dude, this is the way to start. Believe me, it's spiritual when you launch/breakthrough. Vape/smoke some DMT. Use an ash bed of burned herb or mullein for the smoothest hits. DMT vapes cool and marijuana burns very hot - can make for some real lung-burners in my limited experience. Vape/smoke DMT a few times. Experience a breakthrough. Then come back to this space/these questions, if you feel that you need a different or perhaps more lengthy experience. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Brrrrp!
