At first I was on the join the fun bandwagon about the inanity of the original post but this morning I remembered reading an article on another site that I couldn't find again but I found yet another article on the subject that I'm posting the link to: http://www.affirmation.org/suicide_info/sin_and_death_in_mormon_country.shtml This kind of reminded me of the original poster and of the bible thumpers that responded "Repent to god." You fucking morons. This is what pisses me off the most about Judeo-Christian religions. A serious part of our psychological make up is our sex drive. From infancy men have erections. One of our first impulses is to touch that erection. From there we recognise that touching the erection feels good. This is in our design. Then the church comes along and tells us "It's not ok to masturbate god doesn't like it. You will be struck down and go to hell." Then cite some scripture to back up their paranoid phobias of the human body and what we are and arent supposed to do to them. One thing that I've noticed about various people that I've known with mental illness is this overwhelming attraction to religion. When they are having episodes they will have halucinations of God or Jesus on the bus etc. If you combine their mental illness with a severeley anti-sex organisation such as Conservative Religion you have a recipe for disaster. I know it's hard to believe in our modern world that a kid. A KID, 16 years old is a kid. Hung himself because he fealt "Like a Failure to God," because he did what his natural urges told him to do and jerked off. He didn't shoot anybody, or blow up a shopping mall, or rape anyone. I simply can't trust any orginization that puts tuch a heavy guilt trip on nature. And to all of the people that told him to "Repent" or "Stop now before it becomes a major problem" FUCK YOU you should be fucking ashamed of yourselves. This kid already seems a little confused. You are ignorant of his situation. You don't know how much he is consuming or if he genuinely has a problem. He doesn't seem to know if he genuinely has a problem and you are reinforcing some very destrucitve attitudes. At first this seemed like a joke. It isn't when people are KILLING THEMSELVES OVER IT. Fuck all this time when I heard people talking about trying to be like Jesus I thought it was about living a life of love and compassion not laying guilt trips on people for doing what is natural. There is a special spot in hell for people like you. Sorry I had to get a little Al Goldstein on that. Peace Out, Rev J
I agree which is why in my initial response I wanted to leave left no doubt in the mind of the OP “Unless you’ve taken a vow of celibacy before the shrine and in the presence of the good book - choke that chicken until you go blind” Praise the lord, amen, and halleluiah Hotwater
I've always wondered about that, why do you think so many are so attracted to religion? Is it the power aspect of it? "The strange feeling of darkness and self-hate overpowers all my defenses. I must unfortunately yield to it. This turbulent feeling is only for a few to truly understand. I feel that you do not comprehend the immense feeling of self-hatred I have." That part was particularly dark. His concerns were very real. It's too bad there are people out there who have been taught the wrong things that can make them hate themselves so much.
Here's another great quote: "The sky opened up, I saw a bright light and heard the angels sing and was certain I was one of God's children. Then they gave me Lithium and it stopped," Larry Flynt on becoming a born again Christian. On top of that one of the symtoms of Mania is Hypersexuality. Here's an easy situation to frame up. A person with Bipolar Disorder is brought up in a strict religious household and is taught that sex and masturbation is evil and bad and will damn him to hell, that he has to control his urges etc. He then has a Manic episode and becomes hypersexual and rubs himself raw. Then he comes down and becomes depressed and since the messages that he has been given by the Church about how evil and wrong it is to masturbate float into his thoughts and he becomes disgusted and repulsed by his actions and thinks thathe will never be able to control his impulses. He figures since he is already going to hell for masturbating and dissapointing God that shit he may as well commit suicide too. I may be simplifying it a bit too much but that is one scenario. Peace Out, Rev J
Too many people in this world allow others to decipher and interpret life for them. I have always been one to ignore what somebody tells me something says and investigate it for myself. By doing such, I never found anything in the bible specifically condemning masturbation, except maybe a few mentions about "not spilling your seed on the ground" in the old testament. Actually most of the restrictions concerning sexual behavior fall into two categories; 1) maintaining societal and cultural norms concerning marriage and family. 2) not practicing certain things in order to not be associated with other religions of the time. Hey, Jesus hung out with hookers and thieves, didn't seem to bother him much, did it? When it comes to religious (I hate using that term) or spiritual matters, intentions and motivation is infinitely more important than actions. If intentions and motivation is "right" corresponding action will follow. I get a little irritated at people that condemn the religion based on the interpretation of it by it's practitioners. Fuck the followers, go to the source and decide for yourself That statement applies to everything in life, politics, religion, sex, drugs and rock and roll. Educate yourself about a subject and decide for yourself. Don't ever allow another person to take away your freedom of choice in anything, whether it be to follow a religion or to say it's all a myth. The vast majority of people I have known who were anti-Christian and think the bible is a bunch of myths never even read the damn book! So I'm supposed to accept their uninformed opinion based on virtually no knowledge of the subject matter? I don't think so, just as a I'm not going to just accept a religious teaching based upon others opinion's. I see sheep on both sides of the fence.
I subconsciously do everything I can to avoid dating and marriage. So I live in a red light district, I have friends, and I watch porn. If it wasn't for hookers, it would be just porn. My lifestyle is completely independent from non-pro women.
And btw, from MY study of the Old Testament, all the ancient Hebrew laws regarding sexuality were designed for one specific purpose: To ensure maximum likelihood of every ejaculation resulting in pregnancy, thereby resulting in maximum population growth. Spilling seed on the ground wasn't wrong for some vague moral reason - it was wrong because it didn't contribute to an increase in the Hebrew population. So unless you're an ancient Hebrew concerned about increasing your tribe's population, that rule doesn't really have much to do with you, does it?
the op signs up just to say he watches porn? wtf? YES i watch porn and i'm proud of it!!!! i watch gay bear porn.
It's funny I used to live right where that picture was shot. Every year in late September there is a fetish street fair on Folsom St. I'm about 98 percent sure that is it. A little to the left of that picture there is a muscle bound guy who Jerks off for 4 hours straight. Peace Out, Rev J
[COLOR="Yellow"]I think its natural don't be ashamed nothing in the bible says you can't pleasure yourself...if it keeps you from hummping anything or everyone then theres no need to feel ahamed hun! I do it 5 times a week AND IM PROUD!!! [/COLOR]
Interesting you should say that because I had this dream where I’m floating serene in a cloud above a large terrarium which contained 5 or 6 devil-like creatures who were condemned to spend eternity jerking-off BTW: I’m being held up by a set of attached wings Hotwater