Bible Questions? III

Why would you even look? I don't believe I have ever made that statement or even implied it. The Bible is an open book and easy for anyone to understand.

Let's see did the Bible say: All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work? Yes it did.

Once again, I'm sorry you don't believe the word of God is alive but it is.

You must love your neighbor as yourself.

 

Because you say god finds me in error.

No, absolutely it did not. The passage is right here before us. It says all scripture is beneficial. There are hindu scriptures and buddhist scripture, and the quran, as well as many more. It says scripture is inspired by god, does not say unerring word of god. I may be inspired by a painting of michealangelo, but it does not mean my painting will be michealangelo's.

The word of god is alive, because god lives. The bible is not alive it is a book.

Worry is not one of the things love is, believing all things, bearing all things ,hoping all things, enduring all things, love never fails.

 

OWB, is the doctrine of Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) taught in Scripture?

 

I don't have to be superior to anyone else in understanding what "the bible says" to know that. One only has to know what the Bible says.

Yeah, right, the Bible writer meant the Hindu scriptures and the Buddhist scripture, and the Quran when he said all scripture is beneficial.

I see you disagree with the Bible again.

So, are you saying that being concerned for our neighbor is not loving? Interesting.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone), would you mind fleshing it out a bit? At this point I could say both yes and no, depending on how it is viewed.

 

No where in the bible is it written that god finds me in error.

In addition to the bible and others. Do you have a reason to be skeptical and sarcastic other than, "yeah right".
The principles put forth in the bible, have universal application.

In what way?

I said worry is not one of the things love is.

wor·ry [wúr ee]

1. be or make anxious: to feel anxious about something unpleasant that may have happened or may happen, or make somebody do this
2. annoy somebody: to annoy somebody by making insistent demands or complaints
3. try to bite animal: to try to wound or kill an animal by biting it
a dog suspected of worrying sheep

4. Same as worry at
5. proceed despite problems: to proceed persistently despite problems or obstacles
6. touch something repeatedly: to touch, move, or interfere with something repeatedly

From English meaning "strangle"

 

You are right, no were in the Bible will you find the Quote; "God finds the Dope in error". But if you just bother to see whether your beliefs are in harmony with the Bible or not you will see that you are in error.

Yes, because that means that you believe in only one God and at the same time millions of Gods, something you have repeatedly denied.

That means that you believe that Jesus was the Son of God, one of a thousand avatars, just enlightened or just another prophet.

I don't know that sounds contradictory to me but then most of what you say sound contradictory to me.

See above.

Another debate about words because you don't want to face the truth, okay.

So you say that you should never "feel anxious about something unpleasant that may have happened or may happen" to your neighbor, and that is loving your neighbor. Again interesting, but I don't think Jesus would agree with you.

Again, thanks for the definition but I already knew what the word means. Please note that "concern" is considered a synonym for "worry".

Main Entry: worry
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: anxiety, trouble
Synonyms: anguish, annoyance, apprehension, bad news, care, concern, disquiet, distress, disturbance, doubt, fear, headache, heartache*, irritation, misery, misgiving, nag*, pain*, perplexity, pest, plague, presentiment, problem, torment, torture, trial, uncertainty, uneasiness, vexation, woe, worriment
Antonyms: calmness, reassurance

Main Entry: worry
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: be or make anxious, troubled
Synonyms: afflict, aggrieve, agonize, ail, annoy, attack, bedevil, beleaguer, beset, bite one's nails, bother, brood, bug*, chafe, concern oneself, depress, despair, disquiet, distress, disturb, dun, feel uneasy, fret, gnaw at, go for, goad, harass, harry, hassle, have qualms, hector, importune, irritate, needle, oppress, persecute, perturb, pester, plague, stew, sweat out, take on, tantalize, tear, tease, test, torment, torture, trouble, try, unsettle, upset, vex, wince, writhe, wrong
Antonyms: reassure

http://thesaurus.com/browse/worry

 

Yes concern is associated with the word worry, but the measure of that concern is always anxious. The reason for your anxiety is not because you have regarded me as a brother equal to you in Christ, it is because you have judged me as sinning and therefore find me in jeopardy. By their fruits you shall know them.

 

No, I don't, you do.

No, I have only one source who speaks with every voice on the planet. Only god is good. If I have denied it, it is because it is not true. Now specifically,
are you calling me a liar.

No, I don't believe in hero worship. All are children of god.

Scripture?


Definition: anxiety, trouble

Antonyms: calmness, reassurance

Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, equals reassurance,
the antonym of anxiety and trouble, worry.

 

Definition:
"The Bible is the only rule of faith, meaning that it contains all of the material one needs for theology and that this material is sufficiently clear"
OR
"The whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible’s pages. Anything extraneous to the Bible is simply non-authoritative, unnecessary, or wrong".
OR
"It [Scripture] is self-authenticating, clear (perspicuous) to the rational reader, its own interpreter ("Scripture interprets Scripture"), and sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine."

 

Is that how you feel, Ukr-Ckn? Is that a basic Catholic tenement?
Just curious.

 

I'm not answering for Ukr-Cdn, he'll give you his answer I'm sure.

I just wanted to say thar it strikes me as Fundamentalist. It does beg the question, though, of to which edition of the bible would be held authoritative. The few fundamentalists I've spoken to say it's the King James, but I've no idea if that's indicative of a broader consensus.

 

I would soooo like to be able to read Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek - and see what the scrolls and "booklets" say for themselves.

(I find the unaccepted Apocrypha facinating.)

 

There are many KJV only-ists, but it's a little silly. There is no such thing as a perfect translation as all translations are translated with its own bias. None of them are authoritative.

 

No.

It is a basic Protestant tenant, and a false one at that. It isn't found anywhere in Scripture, and therefore defeats itself.

I was going to see what OWB could dig up because he is good at digging up obscure arguments.

 

Just wondering if you guys with bibles can tell me what in there is writ of holy shit, like mushrooms 'n' stuff.

Thanks in advance!

 

God views us all equally. Don't worship your mind over the worship of God. The mind is fleeting while the spirit is perfect. Keep your mind on love and not on vapors.

 

Don't get me wrong, I fully expected OWB to disagree.

I asked mainly out of curiosity.

Interesting fact, Calvin considered an appeal to pastors and teachers an "ordinary means" by which unlearned people could understand Scripture. Kind of goes in the face of a lot of those who say that everyone can understand Scripture.

 

I am just a bit skeptical that being learned is what is necessary in understanding scripture. The 'word' speaks of spiritual matters and it speaks to the spirit that God gives to us. It isn't a mental exercise because the spirit is alive in believers and guides the person into its meaning. It's beyond IQ and being knowledgeable.

People follow Jesus because of what is said in scripture; It compares a Shepard to God and his children being the sheep. Those that are his hear his voice and follow. They weren't exactly listening to him because they believed his arguments had a sound foundation or if it was widely respected by peer reviewed studies. They listened because they were His. They heard His voice and followed by matters of the heart or at the very least to illustrate an important spiritual matter relating God's relationship to those that have a relationship with his Son.

I just said what I said because I was concerned that you were worshiping something other than God and seemed to be forgetting the spiritual and heart-ful matters of God's "word". I am willing to bet that one of the reasons you were attracted to Christianity was due to what Jesus had said and did and not so much on it's validity. Jesus himself had said, "Blessed are those that believe without seeing". Are you trying to 'see' God with your intellect?

 

It doesn't take much intellect to understand how to do as Jesus advises us to do. It does take courage, though.