35mg 2c-t-7

Well, that does give me some interest in t2. Can't see myself wanting to invest in anything more than one 50 mg. dose, but you never know.
I don't think I really have a particular taste , well...2ci didn't really ever do much for me.

 

Okay I guess I have to now.

 

what is 2ce to in that format, GBL?

 

Well both of those 2ct x's ive tried have aspects of mescaline too.

It's like how erowid talks about 2cb being a mix of MDMA and LSD, I mean it doesn't really work as a perfect comparison/analogy but you can understand aspects of the trip having similar qualities.

2ct2 is not exactly like mushrooms nor is 2ct7 exactly like LSD, but t2 had the heavier more serious trip i associate with mushrooms as where t7 had a lighter more colorful and blissful trip I associate with LSD.

I would associate 2ce more along the lines of 2ct7 but I have not taken 50 mgs of it either. It seems more colorful and euphoric though which i've heard is even felt more at higher doses, though it is slightly heavy but it's not as cold, alien and weird as 2ct2 or mushrooms.

Some of that intial feelings toward them may be due to setting as well, limited experience with all 3 of them so far but I think I got a fair assessment of each.

 

2c-e felt like my senses were drunk and I had synesthesia, 2c-t-7 felt like my mind was shpongled and was more serious and shamanic.

 

i don't listen to much shpongle, so i don't really know what it means as a verb. i also wouldn't describe my senses to be drunk on 2ce. synesthesia for sure!

GBL, you don't need to take 50 mg 2ce to get a feel for it. i guess you said that yourself. i just mean, that you don't need to do 50 mg 2ce so you can compare it to 50 mg 2ct2.

well...i just cracked open my copy of PiHKAL and see that the recommended dose for -t2 is 12-25 mg (pretty much the same as 10-25 mg 2ce). i thought -t2 required a higher dose.

 

T2 was very unremarkable at 20 mgs and I think mdbnkc and writer has mentioned so is t7. Those two really seem to shine at higher dose.

 

i guess that's why i thought they require higher doses than 2ce. 20 mg of it is quite remarkable for me.

 

oh yah 20-24 mgs of 2ce is very remarkable for me as well. I mean the fact we are comparing 20 mgs of this stuff to 50 of the other two says a lot about 2ce. The two 2ctx's seem to work differently though, there seems to be like a certain threshold or something for truly psychedelic effects but once you passed that it's amazing.

I do think 2ct2 would be an amazing follow up substance in MDMA assisted therapy at about the 20 mg dose range. It's one of the few phens that does not push you into a good mood and could probably give one a more true appraisal of like how far mdma or whatever drug has helped them.

 

Where did that come from GB? Is this something you're involved or interested or experienced in?

 

Pork just had pikhal out a few minutes ago. Psychedelic therapy and medicine does interest me, I have no experience with it actually be practiced though except on myself.

 

25mg t7 had almost no effect.

 

Dosing t7 correctly can be tricky apparently. I've known some that claim 10mg to be near overwhelming... but most others suggest you gotta push it up high to get the magic.

Normally I always start low and find my sweet spot by systematically upping the dose over several trips spread out weeks apart. However when the day comes that I will partake in a full dose of t7 I won't have the luxury of knowing how much I should take. Considering how infrequently I trip these days and the difficulty required in arranging the proper time and setting will mean that it'll be a one shot chance at getting the dose right. Suppose ill just go big and hope for the best. This is part of the reason why I am so apprehensive... I am not normally this careless.

But after reading your TR I am looking forward to it... whenever it may be.

 

I dosed 50 Mgs right off the bat, if you are experienced with rather heavy acid or mescaline trips you should be alright. Its rather forgiving just a long ass trip.

 

Yeah I wouldn't be afraid of diving into 50 as my next dose. There was no "accusatory" nature to this one, no focusing on my issues and psychological drama as the tryptamines can elicit. My attention was focused outwards and on my senses rather than on my subconscious and thoughts. In fact I even tried to steer the direction towards self-analysis and couldn't, I just didn't care at the moment, and was more enthralled by the shimmer of sunlight on water and the music. Yet still the thoughts and atmosphere of the whole thing were deep, in an ancient alien way. Actually reminded me of LSD in that sense, including the visuals. At one point I actually thought "this is super-acid!" but laughed because it didn't approach the profundity and sensorial infinity of lucy, rather it was a certain lysergic element which t7 emulated and excelled at wildly, though what element that is I could not wrap my mind around, perhaps impossible to communicate. How enticing! Normally I feel I "get" a substance the first time I take a proper dose, this one was very very deep and new! Two thumbs up, worth the slightly hellish comeup.

 

what do you think compared to San pedro writer? Based on your 'desert bloom' report it sounds like your mescaline trip was fairly weak but words often dont do these trips justice. I think 2ct7 is far more visual no doubt, but just overall experience how do you compare/view the two?

 

mescaline was almost purely affective for me, it was very close to MDMA in that sense. T7 was definitely overall more intense, had profound mindfuck, visuals were pretty wild even at this relatively low dose, and while the "mood" of mescaline was "peace love and unity", the mood of T7 was "OM"

 

Feel free not to answer this question but did you do your own mescaline extraction or someone/give send it to you? Purely affective mescaline sounds like 12" worth or I guess maybe weak cacti.

 

Half the batch was made with a known strong source and half with a new unknown source, so it's possibly potency was an issue.

 

I've yet to do mescaline .