Senate Bill S510 Makes it illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food

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    Senate Bill S510 Makes it illegal to Grow, Share, Trade or Sell Homegrown Food



    The World’s Prophecy
    August 13, 2010
    Update:
    Since the story first broke, a lot has happened. One reason for this could be that food is being poisoned. Collecting rainwater is now illegal in many states. Your intake is being controlled. For more information, visit the following articles as well:
    Raiding organic food stores. A sign of new times?S 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2010, may be the most dangerous bill in the history of the US. It is to our food what the bailout was to our economy, only we can live without money.
    “If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God.” ~Dr. Shiv Chopra, Canada Health whistleblower
    It is similar to what India faced with imposition of the salt tax during British rule, only S 510 extends control over all food in the US, violating the fundamental human right to food.
    Monsanto says it has no interest in the bill and would not benefit from it, but Monsanto’s Michael Taylor who gave us rBGH and unregulated genetically modified (GM) organisms, appears to have designed it and is waiting as an appointed Food Czar to the FDA (a position unapproved by Congress) to administer the agency it would create — without judicial review — if it passes. S 510 would give Monsanto unlimited power over all US seed, food supplements, food and farming.
    History

    In the 1990s, Bill Clinton introduced HACCP (Hazardous Analysis Critical Control Points) purportedly to deal with contamination in the meat industry. Clinton’s HACCP delighted the offending corporate (World Trade Organization “WTO”) meat packers since it allowed them to inspect themselves, eliminated thousands of local food processors (with no history of contamination), and centralized meat into their control. Monsanto promoted HACCP.
    In 2008, Hillary Clinton, urged a powerful centralized food safety agency as part of her campaign for president. Her advisor was Mark Penn, CEO of Burson Marsteller*, a giant PR firm representing Monsanto. Clinton lost, but Clinton friends such as Rosa DeLauro, whose husband’s firm lists Monsanto as a progressive client and globalization as an area of expertise, introduced early versions of S 510.
    S 510 fails on moral, social, economic, political, constitutional, and human survival grounds.

    1. It puts all US food and all US farms under Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, in the event of contamination or an ill-defined emergency. It resembles the Kissinger Plan.
    2. It would end US sovereignty over its own food supply by insisting on compliance with the WTO, thus threatening national security. It would end the Uruguay Round Agreement Act of 1994, which put US sovereignty and US law under perfect protection. Instead, S 510 says:
    COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
    Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.
    3. It would allow the government, under Maritime Law, to define the introduction of any food into commerce (even direct sales between individuals) as smuggling into “the United States.” Since under that law, the US is a corporate entity and not a location, “entry of food into the US” covers food produced anywhere within the land mass of this country and “entering into” it by virtue of being produced.
    4. It imposes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRxT_6L_pA"]Codex Alimentarius on the US, a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2D4-noTiCg"]global system of control over food. It allows the United Nations (UN), World Health Organization (WHO), UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), and the WTO to take control of every food on earth and remove access to natural food supplements. Its bizarre history and its expected impact in limiting access to adequate nutrition (while mandating GM food, GM animals, pesticides, hormones, irradiation of food, etc.) threatens all safe and organic food and health itself, since the world knows now it needs vitamins to survive, not just to treat illnesses.
    5. It would remove the right to clean, store and thus own seed in the US, putting control of seeds in the hands of Monsanto and other multinationals, threatening US security. See Seeds – How to criminalize them, for more details.
    6. It includes NAIS, an animal traceability program that threatens all small farmers and ranchers raising animals. The UN is participating through the WHO, FAO, WTO, and World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) in allowing mass slaughter of even heritage breeds of animals and without proof of disease. Biodiversity in farm animals is being wiped out to substitute genetically engineered animals on which corporations hold patents. Animal diseases can be falsely declared. S 510 includes the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), despite its corrupt involvement in the H1N1 scandal, which is now said to have been concocted by the corporations.
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    7. It extends a failed and destructive HACCP to all food, thus threatening to do to all local food production and farming what HACCP did to meat production – put it in corporate hands and worsen food safety.
    8. It deconstructs what is left of the American economy. It takes agriculture and food, which are the cornerstone of all economies, out of the hands of the citizenry, and puts them under the total control of multinational corporations influencing the UN, WHO, FAO and WTO, with HHS, and CDC, acting as agents, with Homeland Security as the enforcer. The chance to rebuild the economy based on farming, ranching, gardens, food production, natural health, and all the jobs, tools and connected occupations would be eliminated.
    9. It would allow the government to mandate antibiotics, hormones, slaughterhouse waste, pesticides and GMOs. This would industrialize every farm in the US, eliminate local organic farming, greatly increase global warming from increased use of oil-based products and long-distance delivery of foods, and make food even more unsafe. The five items listed — the Five Pillars of Food Safety — are precisely the items in the food supply which are the primary source of its danger.
    10. It uses food crimes as the entry into police state power and control. The bill postpones defining all the regulations to be imposed; postpones defining crimes to be punished, postpones defining penalties to be applied. It removes fundamental constitutional protections from all citizens in the country, making them subject to a corporate tribunal with unlimited power and penalties, and without judicial review. It is (similar to C-6 in Canada) the end of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7_0HlCwb8A"]Rule of Law in the US.
    For further information, watch these videos:
    Food Laws – Forcing people to globalize
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia-P4rL2IWc"]YouTube- Vandana Shiva, ISEC - Food Laws
    State Imposed Violence … to snatch resources of ordinary people
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onw_PkVvpts&feature=related"]YouTube- Vandana Shiva, ISEC - State Imposed Violence
    Corporate Rule
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PwqUQ_HIlg&feature=related"]YouTube- Vandana Shiva, ISEC - Corporate Rule
    Reclaiming Economies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXoJHG-er7A&feature=related"]YouTube- Vandana Shiva, ISEC - Reclaiming Economy
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jjxg8f3Gq0"]YouTube- Utah news reports that collecting/using rainwater is ILLEGAL
     
  3. Meliai

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    control the food supply and you control the people.

    i read over a summary of the bill in one of the links provided, and i'm not really sure what to make of it. I'm going to have to delve a little deeper....I couldn't really get a clear view of how this will affect local, organic farms, which is all I'm really concerned about.
     
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    somewhat old news, I thought it could use a refresher.. :)
    Senate Bill S510: Food Safety or Food Fascism?
    Posted On: August 22
    [​IMG]Of all the many facets of sustainable food, food safety is probably on the top of the list. After all, what good is it, if it's not safe to eat? Out of the perils of systematic pesticide and herbicide use, sloppy factory conditions and general negligence in the factory food sector, we find ourselves in a situation where a number of elected officials are looking to make food safety a priority in the United States. At its core, I respect the desire to make the food supply safer, but as Senate Bill S510 has taken a number of liberties against food independence, I wonder who's backing the bill and why? Certainly, it's not solely about food safety.

    Senate Bill S510 is summarized to "A bill to amend the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act with respect to the safety of the food supply" except it has a number of dangerously fascist ideas nestled within its outlined text. Because a small farmer is now equated to the industrial farm, the mistakes of the industrial farm are laid onto the small farm. So now small farms, who have little to no recalls or health issues will be susceptible to being nickle-and-dimed by fees until they can no longer run their businesses without breaking the law. That's some scary business.

    Let's look at who supports the bill. According to maplight.org, (sidenote: this site is straight-up awesome) huge corporations like General Mills, Kraft Foods North America, National Association of Manufacturers and 25 more organizations support this bill. In opposition: American Grassfed Association, Family Farm Defenders, Small Farms Conservancy 93 others in an open letter to address the Senate Bill S510.

    The letter is to the point: the regulations that the government would like to enforce don't actually apply to small operations, specifically organic farms. The disease-laden corporate industry is infected within the large-scale operations where pushing product over quality is more important and safety can sometimes be overlooked. The Food Safety Inspection Service (FSIS) publishes an extremely up-to-date recall list proving this point effectively. Over the last three years of my purchasing local, responsibly-raised food, I have never once encountered a recall of any sort.

    On Govtrack.us, where you can read the bill in its entirety, an anonymous answer to the question of redundancy within the Food Science Experts that work for the FDA was quite clear in its support of knowing the land from which food grows:
    "Although one may try to argue that one incident is too many, it appears that the majority of the incidents actually occur in large producers who are "in it" for the money. To strangle the small farmer with regulations and taxations harms not just the industry, but the future of the next generation of farmers who would gain their skills of growing healthful food from this generation."​
    That's not to say family farms go without issue, but the small farms are able to catch issues quicker, track their product faster, contact their customer base personally and are held to a local reputation that means far more than any corporate marketing could ever buy.

    Urge your senator to oppose this bill as it is written; it can severely impede the right of food independence, instill unjust laws upon sovereign tribal nations and turn our neighbors into criminals for taking their personal gastrointestinal safety into their own hands by using accountable, knowledgeable farmers to raise it. It is our own responsibility to ensure the food we eat is raised ethically with cleanliness and the utmost focus on food safety in the United States.
     
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    Ever wonder how agriculture survived for so many generations without intervention from idiots?

    Every control they want to mandate will allow them to at any point genetically alter as they see fit under law.

    It takes away self sufficiency for food supply from those who have the long range accurate view that they had better be growing so that they survive what is going to come as far as a recession. Or is that the plan?

    This scares the living hell out of me.:(
     
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    Well Im kinda pissed off cause im growing some mushrooms, and while Im having some difficulty with a few strains , edible strains too.. I cant just walk over to the mycology center and ask for assistance..
    Oh the secret tomatoes.. dont want anyone growing them. My god how would ragu stay in business..
     
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    It is the range of issues they want control over that is mind boggling. If they control not only the market but also the seeds, strains and everything else in between, they further control what we are putting in our bodies. :(

    I will soon be told to move to the conspiracy forum but frankly I do not trust them or anyone else to look after my welfare.

    Hey, this is really going to mess up the Obama garden!! :)
     
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    That's the most fucked up thing I've ever heard. So you mean one couldn't grow their own vegetables in their backyard? They can't stop people from doing that.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The whole bill can be found at http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s510/show

    I better do it. cause the navigation sucks..

    Official Summary
    12/18/2009--Reported to Senate amended. FDA Food Safety Modernization Act - Title I: Improving Capacity to Prevent Food Safety Problems -

    (Sec. 101)
    Amends the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FFDCA) to expand the authority of the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to inspect records related to food, including to:
    (1) allow the inspection of records of food that the Secretary reasonably believes is likely to be affected in a similar manner as an adulterated food; and
    (2) require that each person (excluding farms and restaurants) who manufactures, processes, packs, distributes, receives, holds, or imports an article of food permit inspection of his or her records if the Secretary believes that there is a reasonable probability that the use of or exposure to such food will cause serious adverse health consequences or death.

    (Sec. 102)
    Authorizes the Secretary to suspend the registration of a food facility if the food manufactured, processed, packed, or held by a facility has a reasonable probability of causing serious adverse health consequences or death to humans or animals.

    (Sec. 103)
    Requires each owner, operator, or agent in charge of a food facility to:
    (1) evaluate the hazards that could affect food;
    (2) identify and implement preventive controls;
    (3) monitor the performance of those controls; and
    (4) maintain records of such monitoring. Deems facilities required to comply with certain food-specific standards to be in compliance with this section. Requires the Secretary to promulgate regulations to establish science-based minimum standards for conducting a hazard analysis, documenting hazards, implementing preventive controls, and documenting such implementation. Prohibits the operation of a facility that manufactures, processes, packs, or holds food for sale in the United States if the owner, operator, or agent in charge of such facility is not in compliance with this section. Delays implementation of this section for small businesses.

    (Sec. 104)
    Directs the Secretary to:
    (1) review and evaluate relevant health data and other information to determine the most significant foodborne contaminants; and
    (2) issue contaminant-specific and science-based guidance documents, action levels, or regulations.

    (Sec. 105)
    Sets forth provisions related to produce safety, including to require the Secretary to:
    (1) establish science-based minimum standards for the safe production and harvesting of those types of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities to minimize the risk of serious adverse health consequences or death; and
    (2) publish updated good agricultural practices and guidance for the safe production and harvesting of specific types of fresh produce.

    (Sec. 106)
    Requires the Secretary to promulgate regulations to protect against the intentional adulteration of food.

    (Sec. 107)
    Directs the Secretary to assess and collect fees related to:
    (1) food facility reinspection;
    (2) food recalls;
    (3) the voluntary qualified importer program; and
    (4) importer reinspection. Applies export certification provisions to food.

    (Sec. 108)
    Requires the Secretary and the Secretary of Agriculture to prepare and submit to the relevant congressional committees and make public the National Agriculture and Food Defense Strategy, which shall include:
    (1) an implementation plan;
    (2) a coordinated research agenda; and
    (3) a process to achieve, and evaluate progress towards, goals.

    (Sec. 109)
    Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security (DHS) to report annually on the activities of the Food and Agriculture Government Coordinating Council and the Food and Agriculture Sector Coordinating Council.

    (Sec. 110)
    Requires the HHS Secretary to submit to Congress:
    (1) a comprehensive report that identifies programs and practices that are intended to promote the safety and supply chain security of food and to prevent outbreaks of foodborne illness and other food-related hazards that can be addressed through preventive activities; and
    (2) biennial reports on food safety programs and practices following the submission of the comprehensive report. Requires the HHS Secretary and the Secretary of Agriculture to submit to Congress, biennially, a joint food safety and food defense research plan.

    (Sec. 111)
    Requires the HHS Secretary to promulgate regulations on sanitary transportation practices for the transportation of food.

    (Sec. 112)
    Requires the Secretary to develop and make available to local educational agencies, schools, early childhood education programs, and interested entities and individuals guidelines for developing plans for individuals to manage the risk of food allergy and anaphylaxis in schools and early childhood education programs, to be implemented on a voluntary basis. Sets forth issues for such guidelines to address, including:
    (1) parental obligation to provide documentation of their child's food allergy;
    (2) the creation of an individual plan for food allergy management;
    (3) communication strategies between schools or childhood education programs and providers of emergency medical services; and
    (4) strategies to reduce the risk of exposure to anaphylactic causative agents in classrooms and common school or early childhood education program areas, such as cafeterias. Allows the Secretary to award matching grants to assist local educational agencies in implementing such food allergy and anaphylaxis management guidelines. Title II: Improving Capacity to Detect and Respond to Food Safety Problems -

    (Sec. 201)
    Requires the Secretary to:
    (1) allocate resources to inspect facilities and articles of food imported into the United States based on their risk profiles;
    (2) increase the frequency of inspection of all facilities; and
    (3) report to the appropriate congressional committees annually on food facility and food import inspections.

    (Sec. 202)
    Requires the Secretary to:
    (1) recognize bodies that accredit laboratories with a demonstrated capability to conduct analytical testing of food products;
    (2) establish a publicly available registry of accreditation bodies;
    (3) develop model standards that an accreditation body shall require laboratories to meet; and
    (4) periodically reevaluate accreditation bodies and revoke recognition of any not in compliance with this section. Sets forth requirements for mandatory testing, including that:
    (1) testing be conducted by federal laboratories or accredited nonfederal laboratories; and
    (2) results of such testing be sent directly to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Requires the Secretary to review results from any sampling and testing that lead to a state or locality issuing a food recall to evaluate the need for a national recall or other compliance and enforcement activities. Requires the Secretary to report to the relevant congressional committees on the progress in implementing a national food emergency response laboratory network.

    (Sec. 203)
    Directs the DHS Secretary to maintain an agreement through which relevant laboratory network members will:
    (1) agree on common laboratory methods in order to facilitate the sharing of knowledge and information;
    (2) identify means by which each member could work cooperatively to optimize national laboratory preparedness and provide surge capacity during emergencies; and
    (3) engage in ongoing dialogue and build relationships that will support a more effective and integrated response during emergencies. Sets forth reporting requirements.

    (Sec. 204)
    Requires the HHS Secretary to:
    (1) improve tracking and tracing of fruits and vegetables that are raw agricultural commodities in the event of a foodborne illness outbreak; and
    (2) establish standards for the type of information, format, and timeframe for persons to submit records to aid the Secretary in such tracking and tracing.

    (Sec. 205)
    Requires the Secretary to establish a pilot project to explore and evaluate methods for rapidly and effectively tracking and tracing processed food so that the Secretary may quickly identify the source of an outbreak involving such a processed food and the recipients of the contaminated food.

    (Sec. 206)
    Requires the Secretary, acting through the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), to enhance foodborne illness surveillance systems to improve the collection, analysis, reporting, and usefulness of data on foodborne illnesses. Requires the Secretary to:
    (1) develop and implement strategies to leverage and enhance the food safety and defense capacities of state and local agencies to achieve specified goals, including improving foodborne illness outbreak response and containment; and
    (2) complete a review of state and local capacities and needs for enhancement not later than one year after enactment of this Act. Reauthorizes appropriations for grants to states and Indian tribes to expand participation in networks to enhance federal, state, and local food safety efforts, including meeting the costs of establishing and maintaining the food safety surveillance, technical, and laboratory capacity needed for such participation.

    (Sec. 207)
    Authorizes the Secretary to:
    (1) provide a responsible party with an opportunity to cease distribution and recall an adulterated or misbranded article of food if the use of or exposure to such article will cause serious adverse health consequences or death to humans or animals;
    (2) order a responsible party to immediately cease distribution and provide notice to relevant persons if the responsible party does not voluntarily cease distribution of or recall such article of food; and
    (3) order a recall if the Secretary determines that removal of the article from commerce is necessary, but only after providing an opportunity for a hearing.

    (Sec. 208)
    Revises the standard for the administrative detention of food to allow such a detention if the FDA has reason to believe that such article is adulterated or misbranded.

    (Sec. 209)
    Requires the Administration of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to provide support for, and technical assistance to, state, local, and tribal governments in preparing for, assessing, decontaminating, and recovering from an agriculture or food emergency.

    (Sec. 210)
    Requires the Secretary to set standards and administer training and education programs for the employees of state, local, territorial, and tribal food safety officials relating to the regulatory responsibilities and policies established by this Act. Authorizes and encourages the Secretary to conduct examinations, testing, and investigations for the purposes of determining compliance with the food safety provisions of this Act through the officers and employees of such state, local, territorial, or tribal agency.

    (Sec. 211)
    Expands the program for grants to states, territories, and Indian tribes for inspections to include grants to:
    (1) train to HHS standards for the examination, inspection, and investigation of food manufacturing, processing, packing, holding, distribution, and importation;
    (2) build the capacity of the laboratories for food safety;
    (3) build the infrastructure and capacity of the food safety programs; and
    (4) take appropriate action to protect the public health in response to a recall of food under the FFDCA. Title III: Improving the Safety of Imported Food -

    (Sec. 301)
    Requires U.S. importers to perform risk-based foreign supplier verification activities to verify that imported food is produced in compliance with applicable requirements related to hazard analysis and standards for produce safety and is not adulterated or misbranded. Requires the Secretary to issue guidance to assist U.S. importers in developing foreign supplier verification programs.

    (Sec. 302)
    Requires the Secretary to:
    (1) establish a program to provide for the expedited review and importation of food offered for importation by U.S. importers who have voluntarily agreed to participate in such program; and
    (2) issue a guidance document related to participation and compliance with such program.

    (Sec. 303)
    Requires imported food that fails to meet requirements for a certification or other assurance that the food meets applicable FFDCA requirements to be refused admission. Authorizes the Secretary to require, as a condition of granting admission to an article of food into the United States, that an entity provide a certification or other assurances that the article of food complies with applicable FFDCA requirements.

    (Sec. 304)
    Directs the Secretary to require, prior to importation of an article of food, notice of any country to which such article has been refused entry.

    (Sec. 305)
    Requires the Secretary to determine whether a country can provide reasonable assurances that the food supply of the country meets or exceeds the safety of food manufactured, processed, packed, or held in the United States.

    (Sec. 306)
    Directs the Secretary to develop a comprehensive plan to expand the technical, scientific, and regulatory capacity of foreign governments and food industries from which foods are exported to the United States.

    (Sec. 307)
    Authorizes the Secretary to enter into arrangements and agreements with foreign governments to facilitate the inspection of registered foreign facilities. Requires the Secretary to direct resources to inspections of foreign facilities, supplies, and food types to help ensure the safety and security of the U.S. food supply. Requires food to be refused admission into the United States if permission to inspect the food facility is denied by the facility owner, operator, or agent or the foreign country.

    (Sec. 308)
    Sets forth provisions governing the establishment of a system to recognize bodies that accredit third-party auditors and audit agents to certify that eligible entities meet applicable FFDCA requirements for importation of food into the United States.

    (Sec. 309)
    Requires the Secretary to establish offices of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in foreign countries to provide assistance to the appropriate governmental entities with respect to measures to provide for the safety of articles of food and other products regulated by the FDA that are exported by such countries to the United States.

    (Sec. 310)
    Requires the Secretary to:
    (1) develop and implement a strategy to better identify sand prevent entry into the United States of smuggled food; and
    (2) notify the DHS Secretary not later than ten days after identifying a smuggled food that would cause serious adverse health consequences or death to humans or animals. Requires a press release to warn consumers and vendors about a potential threat from smuggled food if certain requirements are met. Title IV: Miscellaneous Provisions -

    (Sec. 401)
    Authorizes appropriations for FY2010-FY2014 for the activities of the Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition, the Center for Veterinary Medicine, and related field activities in the Office of Regulatory Affairs of the FDA. Directs the HHS Secretary to increase the field staff of such Centers and Office.

    (Sec. 402)
    Establishes whistleblower protections for employees of entities involved in the manufacturing, processing, packing, transporting, distribution, reception, holding, or importation of food who provide information relating to any violation of the FFDCA.

    (Sec. 404)
    Declares that nothing in this Act shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.

    (Sec. 405)
    Requires the Secretary to update the Fish and Fisheries Products Hazards and Control Guidance to take into account advances in technology.

    (Sec. 406)
    Requires the Secretary, acting through the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, to study the transportation of food for consumption in the United States, including an examination of the unique needs of rural and frontier areas with regard to the delivery of safe food.
     
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    Suddenly muslim terrorists don't look so bad...


    Maybe they'll clean up Washington for us
     
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    and those people that divert water from your roofs and use it to water flower and plants.. do you really know the kinda of crap thats coming off your roof?
    From heavy metals to bird droppings.. Can be good for anyone else, if the water is not processed though a filtration system..
     
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    One of our senators- Criminal... ahhhh I mean Christopher Dodd co-sponsored the bill.

    What is really scary is that so very many of the sheeple refuse to take this shit seriously but get all up in arms about Tiger Woods, Lindsay Lohan, and other nonsense used to distract the masses.

    The manufactured food supply is a conveyor belt of low grade poison that ensured a limited life span propped up by a costly dependence on pharmaceuticals for so many. Frankly a bullet in the temple would be a more efficient way of killing people but it would deprive the elites of the drawn out money harvest- mostly through medical care by maintaining a condition long enough so the money husk (person) can be emptied before being discarded.
     
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    its really amazing the hours of coverage they get... "scientific minimum standards" opps "scientific media standards" ..
     
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    This is the worst part of it all. When you try to talk to someone about these things they tend to say something like, "Aw, that's conspiracies, you're talking nonsense."

    They don't take it seriously. However when someone's order at McDonalds gets messed up, then they start taking things seriously.

    Not enough people care and not enough people ever will care. A small few carry the weight of the many. And unfortunately because of said government supplied diet, that weight just keeps getting heavier and heavier.
     
  15. ThePepsiSyndrome

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    I grow more tomatoes, green peppers and cucumbers in my garden every year than I could eat in four years so I give away all the extra food to an area food bank. The people who get the free food are apparently very appreciative because they almost never can afford freshly grown food on their own. All they ever eat is preprocessed shit.

    I won't be stopping.
     
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    I read nothing in the legislation you provided which implied any of the ten things you listed in your synopsis. Perhaps you could list the specific provisions by your claims in case I missed them.
     
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    [​IMG]

    "...from my cold, dead hands..." :D
     
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    I had 100's of tomatoes,, didnt eat a single one..... they are for a camouflage anyways..
     
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    I agree, I didn't see anything in the bill that prevents landowners from growing gardens for personal use, and I'm really unclear on how the bill affects local organic farms. It seems to me that the bill is only increasing regulation amongst large farms that provide food for a large sample of the population.

    I would like to say that if this bill prevents people from growing personal gardens, that it would start a riot...but I honestly think people are too dependent on fast food and processed food and vegetables that were grown 1000 miles from the grocery store in which they shop....Most people probably wouldn't even care.

    It amazes me that media manipulation is actually successful. It amazes me that people can turn on CNN and see that the latest headline is "Lindsay Lohan found in a crackden" or whatever the hell, and this doesn't cause outrage. It amazes me that we still have troops in the middle east but I never see anything in mainstream media about this. People have forgotten about the men and women putting their lives at risk overseas, yet they're definitely up to date on megan fox's latest plastic surgery. My fellow countrymen and women make me very sad sometimes.
     
  20. Carlfloydfan

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    Well, there is a lot of double speak and different ways this bill could be interpreted. I think Orison is being critical, and looking at how vague it is, as well as the implications due to the vagueness.

    After all, governments aren't exactly known for clarity.

    But, this is stuff Matt was bringing up years ago.
     
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