"A penny's worth" :rofl: is that metric or imperial? :rofl: I would take the whole 50mg if you are looking to have your shit shaken and stirred enter with the utmost humility
Nice! Snorting it in my opinion cuts off an hour or an hour and a half come-up, makes it within 10 minutes I think, and I *think* there was less body-load. This stuff is finer than talcum powder; there is no burn. Get a good scale for $21 at least and weigh out 15-18 mg. That's good for a first time. It's the same dose for insufflation I believe, it just hits you faster. Enjoy
I'll try insufflation next time i do the aces. and you're right about how fine it is, it really is like flour.
Update: 25 mg was a huge let down for me as well. =X I snorted it... shoulda eaten it and eaten more.
If you can get past the stigma and have at least 20 mgs, try 4-aco-dmt rectally. I preferred 20 mgs plugged to 30 Mgs oral it was the same visually but way smoother body load and actually 'crisper' visuals.
Hahaha understood but if you ever feel adventerous with 4-aco-dmt you should try it, its the shit :rofl:
Lol I feel lucky to have an incredibly low tolerance to this... 15 mg was as strong as around 3.5 grams of shrooms to me
What do you mean by let down? Was it not enough? If 25 mg was not enough, I know a friend who had a huge natural tolerance, though he was using lots of other stuff daily as well. Maybe you should try 40 mg next, and up to 50-60.
Please keep in mind it is possible that some vendors products are more pure than others resulting in the varied doses reported. I have no first hand proof but I was told the tan stuff from a US vendor requird 7mg more for the same effect he got from the chinese vendors product.
^^^Exactly what I was thinking... My product was very tan (US Vendor) and 25 mg's didn't really get me anywhere... I found it slightly difficult to move and very light hallucinagenic properties... Everything was missing that special glow I noticed the first time I did it. As I said before I'm no stranger to hallucinagens, but still new to this chemical. It is possible that I have a natural tolerance, but if anything my partner definitely doesn't and he was a bit let down by the experience as well.
I think whether you're able to snort it depends on whether it is fumarate or HCl, I'm just speculating there, but I know many people who've snorted up to 50mg with little/no effect - or at best the same effect as a slightly smaller oral dose from the drip - while I know others who've had a great effect snorting it. Personally because of several bad reports I've heard I've not tried snorting it, I save snorting for 2C-E, and oral for 4-AcO-DMT, after all, it's a short enough trip anyway that if snorting worked well I wouldn't want to do it just for the reduction in duration. Further backs up my theory, I bet if you ate the same 25mg, or 30mg, you'd have a wonderful trip. Definitely go with oral imo. A friend of mine recently purchased some, snorted 40mg their first time, and found it extremely underwhelming and boring - they find a single tab of weak acid "sooo intense" (in their own words) - so I think the ROA is the problem. Eat 50mg, lose your ego, ???, profit! Edit: Also, almost forgot, if you have the fumarate, which is what most vendors sell - due to it being stable, unlike HCl, you might want to up the dose a little. 20mg HCl would probably equate to 25-27mg fumarate.
Thanks, Royal... your post was very helpful... I almost gave up on this substance because of my experience... I honestly shouldn't have let my friend talk me into snorting it. I really don't know what I was thinking. Anyway, after reading your post, I think I'll give this substance another shot. I'll update when I get more.
You only had that first little bit? Don't do 18mg, that's to low imo. Do 25mg, its still easy to handle yet enough to actually give you some visuals. Don't give up on it, it's the fav of most the people on here!
Has anyone tried sublingual? I know that is my neighbour's perfered ROA for many tryptamines like 5meoDMT and Bufotenine. He says he has samples coming from both common vendors one sample is tan which he had a great time at 17mg... And a sample from the great whit north that is supplsed to be ~7mg stronger making me think that it may be the HCL. I have access to someone who can test them so he will get a sample of each for analysis. He also has a sample of the "new" 5-iai that will be tested as well. All results will become public knowledge as soon as it becomes available.
Um, I think the 4-AcO-DMT fumurate works fine for snorting for some reason... Also, I think sublingual would work fine, about like insufflation, I think I'll try it next. You have to be able to stand the extremely bitter flavor, though.