I already posted this in the health section, but I never get a lot of answers there. So sorry if I annoy anyone by posting this two different places I recently started taking diet pills and I feel like I have done a bit of coke for hours. Is this normal? I didn't see a common side effect section on the bottle. I did see dangerous side effects- see a doctor stuff -but I don't have any of those symptoms. SO I was wondering if the way I feel (like I did a little bit of coke) is normal or no? Also I have heard that after a while, they don't work anymore and you have to increase your dosage to get the full affect, leading to addiction. Is that true? Big thanks to anyone who can help me!!!
A lot of those diet pills have some sort of amphetamine in them, and that will definitely make you feel hyper, shakey, anxious or like you have done some speed. They can be addictive too. Be careful with those things. My husband was took them for a few days one week, and for like 2 weeks afterwards was always saying "I wish I had some of those pills" just about every day.
I've never taken diet pills, but have heard a little bit about them. What is/are the active ingredient(s)? I know in the past, amphetamines (like dexedrine) were prescribed as diet pills -- ever seen Requiem for a Dream? I don't know if they still do that today. A quick google search for "diet pills" brought up several pages advertising multiple hot new diet drugs. Then, a quick search for the active ingredients in a couple of them (google for OTC drugs, rxlist.com for prescription drugs) showed that they are based on stimulants, which may cause fun stuff like: For phentermine, a prescription diet drug: Cardiovascular: Palpitation, tachycardia, elevation of blood pressure. Central Nervous System: Overstimulation, restlessness, dizziness, insomnia, euphoria, dysphoria, tremor, headache; rarely psychotic episodes at recommended doses. Gastrointestinal: Dryness of the mouth, unpleasant taste, diarrhea, constipation, other gastrointestinal disturbances. Be careful with whatever you're taking & educate yourself about the active ingredients & possible side effects. The internet is your friend! Of course, you have to be critical about what pages you get your info from, but there is plenty of good info out there. If you are on a prescription drug, I highly recommend rxlist.com.
Wow, that sounds scary. Did you get these pills recommended to you by a doctor, or did you find them yourself?? You might want to consider going to a doctor if it continues - who knows what kind of harm it might be doing to your body.
I just went and bought some at CVS. I didn't go and start taking them without a little bit of info, but I have heard 2 sides to every story. the coked-up feeling I've heard is natural and I 've heard that it's horrible for you I have heard horror stories about people who take more and more (because the effects diminished over time) and became addicted. I also talked to a personal friend who took them for a year, never found he needed more than diercted on the bottle and after he lost wieght, never felt as if he needed them again. I'm so confused!
Would you mind telling us what kind they are -- brand name and/or active ingredients -- in hopes that someone will know more about that specific product or drug? Can you be more specific about what you're experiencing -- what does it mean to feel coked-up? The closest I've ever been was incredibly jittery from too much ephedrine (anyone remember mini-thins?). Be critical about this info -- yes, feeling jittery & having your heart race from taking a large amount of ephedra (natural herbal stimulant), or even from caffeine, is natural. Those are natural side effects of those relatively minor stimulants. At the same time, it can be very harmful to your heart. Again, you have to be critical of anecdotal evidence. I have known more than one person who shot up with heroin a couple of times, or even went on a month-long binge, quit cold turkey & never had a craving again. On the other hand, how many people become psychologically addicted the first time or first couple of times they try heroin? I know, we are talking about very different drugs here, but I'm just trying to point out that one person's experience does not mean the drug is not as dangerous as everyone says.
Well the specific feelings I have are shakey hands, I have to try harder to concentrate, I feel hot, I am bouncing my leg a lot and fidgeting, walking around and pacing, I feel these little tweaks in my face, and I feel generally not hungry like I did when I used to use coke every now and then I don't use it anymore though! The ingredients in this are: yerba mate extract green tea extract cocoa extract bitter orange extract tyrosine complex L-methionine ginger extract grape seed extract flavone extract DMAE ( dimethylaminoethanol) oh yeah and thanx for all the help I really appreciate it!
Almost everything in these "diet pills" are central nervous system stimulants. Of course you are going to be jittery. If you are twitching, I would certainly avoid this drug. This is NOT a good side effect, and in some cases may be a portent for something permanant. (I have a kid with Tourette's so twitching of any kind makes me nervous.)
from someone who knows all there is to know about drugs::sunglasse 1. Almost all diet drugs are based on stimulants - ephedra is the contraversial one of the moment, but they're almost all similar. what you describe is normal. 2. A few people have had serious or life threatening problems from some of thse drugs. These are heart attacks, shortness of breath, seizures, psychotic episodes, and overheating/dehydration causing seizure and eventually death. The people who have these serious problems from these drugs all seem to have an underlying risk factor : Ive listed all i can think of here: Heart problems, Liver problems, Asthma and COPD , Epilepsy, Schizophrenia, Mood disorders, (clinical depression and manic depression), Eating disorders (or symptoms of these - forced or frequent vomiting, frequent diorreah (sp?), starvation dieting - these increase risk of seizure in all people and also the overheadting/dehydration aspect), strenuous excersize for long durations (more than 1 hour at a time), steriod use, stimulant use, including caffine . 3. Most of the cases of death and serious injury ith diet pills are caused by health problems which were so mild the users weren't aware of them, but the stimulant drugs exacerbate an unnoticable problem into something serious or life thretening. IF you decide to take these herbals, over the counters, or street drugs, it's a good idea to get your health checked really thoroughly first esp. neuro, liver, lungs and heart, 4 In any case, the over the counter and herbal diet pills are almost all relatives of amphetamines - either less desirable chemical cousins created by drug companies to get around the laws, or the plants and their close relatives where some prescription and illegal forms of speed were first derived. ephedra is the parent of the drug ephedrine. So that;s the chemestry about why you feel like you're on Yay. 5 Do they work? YUP! they decrease appetite, increase energy, and increase the metabolism so the activity brought on by that energetic mood actually burns more calories than it normally would. A fat person's dream - for a while. Like most drugs, they lose teir effects after a time. You need more and more to get thesame effect, and after about 3-6 month, you won't get much of an effect at all. dr's still use them for very heavy people sometimes, but it should just be a starting point o motivate and help someone to lose enough to be able to excercise better and give them a time of decreased food intake where the stomach can shrink back to more normal size. DEPENDANCE 6 why doc's don't use them except in very difficult cases: Even the over the counter etc ones are *addictive* to a degree... You feel very depressed when you stop taking them, total lack of energy, tired all the time, slowed down metabolism, and massively increased appetite. Unfortunately the labels always recommend you take these things every day, several times a day, which is what causes the dependance - that's less of a problem if one were to use them every two or three days - also makes tolerance less of a problem, and stops the body from going into starvation mode where it starts conserving calories when one consistantly misses meals and eats sparingly every day for a period of weeks. CONCLUSION: Ultimately, if you decide to use these, get your health checked out really thoroughly first. Don't use other stimulants like coke or meth when you take them, don't drink more than 2 cups of coffee. When you find they stop working as well, start to slowly wean yourself off, decreasing the amount and the frequency. Do this each week till you've stopped completely. withdrawl is not fun. This will stop you from feeling like shit and regaining any lost weight in a month.
Don't use those things! They are the devil! Okay, slight exaggeration, but, the only way to lose weight in a healthy way and keep it off is a change in lifestyle. Diet pills only offer a quick-fix that won't last and aren't worth the money, plus what are they really doing to your body? I used to take them back when I was younger, and they did nothing but add more problems to my already existent eating disorders, and in addition to that, I felt lousy on them, like I was going to shake into a million little pieces. Please don't take those things! Not all of them are safe, heck, who knows if any of them really are? Hugs...
IT's the bitter orange extract that is makeing you the most jittery. That stuff is almost like ephedra. The FDA is thinking about banning that one also
mrs eads says that the bitter orange is the stimulant ingredient: The ingredients in this are: yerba mate extract green tea extract cocoa extract bitter orange extract tyrosine complex L-methionine ginger extract grape seed extract flavone extract DMAE ( dimethylaminoethanol) here's a run down of what these substances are: L-methionine : NOt a stimulant ! amino acid which assists in the breakdown of fats, helps eliminate free radicals , clean arteries, detoxify liver. Grape Seed Extract : another antioxident Ginger: antioxident and blood thinner perhaps they are trying to prevent their jazzed up customers from having heart attacks? see below. Tyrosine: amino acid which increases production of certain neurotransmitters deficient in people w depression - norepinephrine, dopamine, others... and increases the function of the thyroid gland - which increases metabolism - also rports that it speeds thinking, increases energy, (acts generally like a stimulant) in a minor way Green tea and Cocoa are the strongest sources of caffeine in existance. (stimulants) "Yerba Mate is used as a tonic, diuretic, and as a stimulant to reduce fatigue, suppress appetite, and aid gastric function in herbal medicine systems throughout South America. It also has been used as a depurative (to promote cleansing and excretion of waste)." (rain-tree.com) "Bitter orange contains a stimulant known as synephrine, which is chemically similar to adrenaline and ephedrine, the chemical behind ephedra's potency." the article also says the effectiveness as a stimulant is unproven and considered doubtful from what results exist. It's a common flavouring in liquers and other food and drink . (talkinternational.com) Flavone:"This appears to be perhaps the most potent legal anabolic compound known today", (supplements101.com) mimics the action of anabolic steroids DMAE: recommended for ADHD as a substitute for ritalin. Obviously yet ANOTHER stimulant yikes. what's this stuff called??
Why are you taking diet pills anyway, if you're a hippy you should be doing things the natural way anyway. Try eating less and smaller portions. Besides, everyone is an individual and pills react differently with each and everyone of us. Be yourself, you are unique. Hopefully you're not dieting for someone else, if you are that is the wrong reason, you should be doing it for yourself. Remember take good care of yourself and stay off of anything manufactured, try the natural way, eat less.
I already said that I wasn't taking them for the wieght loss- I was taking them for energy. I was concerned about the shakyness I felt. Besided, being a "hippie" does not mean I do EVERYTHING the "natural" way. I am me and I use manufactured stuff all the time. I don't care, that's just me. I don't classify myself as anyhting but that. I'm not trying to be mean, but I think a few of you missed what I was trying to ask.
oh yeah, and thank you for telling me what does what in those pills- I stopped taking them. I think I will just drink the green tea for the energy I want. I'll have to hold my nose though- that stuff tastes nasty to me. Oh well, better safe then sorry
ooh yeah i used to be addicted big time to diet pills. If you take more than one they will make you feel like you did some heavily cut and shitty coke. They're addictive-big time but soon you'll get to the point where you never want to eat and than get high from it and addicted to starving yourself which will fuck up your metabolism big time. stay away from diet pills.
May I ask why you limit yourself to green tea? The energy you get from that is primarily from the caffeine -- there are plenty of teas out there that taste quite different from green tea... Go for black or white tea blends, which have caffeine, tho herbal tea blends, like peppermint or lemon zinger, do not naturally contain caffeine. And, of course, there's alway coffee...
yeah, I hate coffee. I can't stand the taste. I really don't like any kind of tea either, but I can stand green tea the most. any other suggestions?
Add lots of honey & lemon juice to the green tea -- if you add enuf, you won't really taste the tea anymore... Of course, the other thing would be to consider why you need this added energy -- it's one thing if you can't get enuf sleep AND do all the things you need to do (like work AND go to school AND do homework/write papers AND cook/eat/clean/etc.). However, if you can, try to get at least 8 hours of sleep a nite, see how that helps. If you do get enuf sleep & still lack energy, consider your diet -- do you eat enuf fruits & veggies to get the balance of nutrients you need? Do you eat enuf calories each day? Do you generally go for whole grain stuff or the cheap sugary crap? The big problem with trying to increase energy levels without enuf sleep & proper nutrition is that you always wind up crashing. A nice sugar rush will get you going for a while, but that burns quickly, so before long you need more or you feel exhausted. Same thing with developing a caffeine habit. Of course, same thing with those diet pills, which is why they often lead to all kinds of addiction problems. Not that I'm one to talk, really, caffeine addict that I am... But I'm procrastinating on a writing a paper, so I hope you'll excuse my rambling!
