Nice report as usual Mr. Writer 2c-b is some delcious stuff alright. Used to be my favorite but I really only had a couple of "magical" experiences on the first few times I tried it. By magical, I am referring to the erotic and tactile sensations it produces... those similar to mdma I suppose. By about the 3rd or 4th time I tried it the magic was gone. Every time since then (even with a year break) the magic never came back... instead 2cb just gives me a very generic 2c buzz that requires a lot of work on my part to mold into anything useful. 28mg was my sweet spot, but unfortunetly I cannot remember if that was with the hbr or hcl version. Dosages are different between the two salts (cannot recall by how much) but considering the dose response curve, it is important to be aware of which one you are consuming. By any chance do you know which one you took? And yes, 2c-b and lsd is amazing . One of these days I'll have to try mdma and 2c-b. I hear its divine.
do you think there's a chance that your 2cb degraded? i know it's supposed to be pretty stable, but maybe it got mistreated? have you experienced the lose of magic from any other 2cx? and if you only had two good experiences, how can you be sure of your sweet spot?
I don't know which type my current batch is but most likely hbr as that's what seems to be prevalent in the market. My next batch will be hbr.
I've sampled 2c-b many times... not only from different batches but also from different vendors. I may have worded my previous post incorrectly. I didn't mean to imply that only my first couple of experiences with -b were my only good experiences. I've had wonderful trips on the stuff over the years, but there was just something extra special about my first few experiences. Not sure how to describe it other than to say that those experiences were somehow more magical. Something a little extra special stood out in those trips that I hadn't experienced on any other psychedelics... a little extra sparkle I suppose. I found 28mg to be my sweet spot if I remember correctly because with higher doses I fou nd the experience to be overly stimulating, confusing and or dysphoric. I believe 32mg to be the highest I've ever taken it and at that dose the side effects out weighed the positive ones. 2c-b is the only one I've noticed a loss of magic with... but its also the one I've experimented with the most by far.
This really was a (and the only) significant side effect. I went from being in just my boxers, to putting on pants, socks, undershirt, tshirt, sweater, and going under my heavy winter covers. It really chilled me, and while this is an effect that is universal for me for all psychedelics i've ever done, I think I've never had it as strong as on the bee. I can see this being annoying in an outdoor setting. Indoors there are solutions but outdoors one might get truly uncomfortable (well, as much as one can get on 2c-b ). I would imagine this side effect is actually a boon when doing it with a sexually compatible friend, encouraging snuggling :coffee: edit: interesting, both erowid and neurosoup list anxiety and neurosoup lists claustrophobia as possible side effects. I definitely got both, anxiety in just brief flashes, which at the time I wrote off as being linked to having just gone through a break up and being a poor set, and the claustrophobia i wrote off as simply wanting to go outside. But in retrospect I guess you could say I got anxiety and claustrophobia. further trials to be done.
2c-b is fucking fantastic. no way around it and 30mg is a GREAT level...40 is much crazier. next time i plan to take 50-65mg, but that may be quite a ways down the road
Yeah I'm thinking 50mg next time too, I've heard some serious entheogenic experiences occur on very high doses.
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Writer, your trip report sounds exactly how 2c-c makes me feel. If 2c-c to you is mild, maybe I should really drop the $200 one of my vendors is asking for a gram of 2c-b haha. Just imagine how I'd be feeling. Considering my location, I think this might be the perfect thing to get me outside too. Usually 2c-c makes me too uncomfortably warm to be outside (it's been in the upper 90s recently)
Everyone seems to bang on about 2C bromo but after reading BL xoroth post yesterday where he says he cannot believe people give it so much credit with E and T-7 around. I don't expect much from this material, maybe 2c just ain't for me.
Well if Xoroth is your source of opinion, and you don't expect much, then maybe you'll get your wish. I would suggest trying it yourself first, and considering why you think Xoroth's opinion weighs more than everyone's in this thread, along with Shulgin's. Just saying.
Probably cos i don't like 2C and Xoroth's choice of Psys fit mine more than most. But basically 2C has never made me say WOW or feel anything special, also gives me a stomach ache and hangover! Tryptamines never did that except Foxy, yuck.
you say "2c" but every 2c is different. You are posting in my trip report, have you read it? I found this to be, without contest, the pinnacle of the 2c series. Without contest. This one comfortably snuggles right beside LSD in my books. The only other one that shows promise is t7, which comes at a greater physical cost and is more entheogenic and arcane. I still need a high dose with that one to really get it.