How the Kiwi lost its wings

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  1. Frog_On_Ice

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    read this Maori myth and post what you feel is the moral of it, I think this is a great story something I was taught in primary school that I found on a website:
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    [size=+3]O[/size][size=-1]ne day, Tanemahuta was walking through the forest. He looked up at his children reaching for the sky and he noticed that they were starting to sicken, as bugs were eating them. [/size]

    [size=-1]He talked to his brother, Tanehokahoka, who called all of his children, the birds of the air together. [/size]

    [size=-1]Tanemahuta spoke to them. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Something is eating my children, the trees. I need one of you to come down from the forest roof and live on the floor, so that my children can be saved, and your home can be saved. Who will come?" [/size]

    [size=-1]All was quiet, and not a bird spoke. [/size]

    [size=-1]Tanehokahoka turned to Tui. [/size]

    [size=-1]"E Tui, will you come down from the forest roof?"[/size]

    [size=-1]Tui looked up at the trees and saw the sun filtering through the leaves. Tui looked down at the forest floor and saw the cold, dark earth and shuddered. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Kao, Tanehokahoka, for it is too dark and I am afraid of the dark."[/size]

    [size=-1]All was quiet, and not a bird spoke. [/size]

    [size=-1]Tanehokahoka turned to Pukeko. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Pukeko, will you come down from the forest roof?"[/size]

    [size=-1]Pukeko looked up at the trees and saw the sun filtering through the leaves. Pukeko looked down at the forest floor and saw the cold, damp earth and shuddered. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Kao, Tanehokahoka, for it is too damp and I do not want to get my feet wet."[/size]

    [size=-1]All was quiet, and not a bird spoke. [/size]

    [size=-1]Tanehokahoka turned to Pipiwharauroa. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Pipiwharauroa, will you come down from the forest roof?"[/size]

    [size=-1]Pipiwharauroa looked up at the trees and saw the sun filtering through the leaves. Pipiwharauroa looked around and saw his family. [/size]

    [size=-1]"Kao, Tanehokahoka, for I am busy at the moment building my nest."[/size]

    [size=-1]All was quiet, and not a bird spoke. And great was the sadness in the heart of Tanehokahoka, for he knew, that if one of his children did not come down from the forest roof, not only would his brother loose his children, but the birds would have no home. [/size]

    [size=-1]Tanehokahoka turned to Kiwi. [/size]

    [size=-1]"E kiwi, will you come down from the forest roof?"[/size]

    [size=-1]Kiwi looked up at the trees and saw the sun filtering through the leaves. Kiwi looked around and saw his family. Kiwi looked at the cold damp earth. Looking around once more, he turned to Tanehokahoka and said, [/size]

    [size=-1]"I will."[/size]

    [size=-1]Great was the joy in the hearts of Tanehokahoka and Tanemahuta, for this little bird was giving them hope. But Tanemahuta felt that he should warn kiwi of what would happen. [/size]

    [size=-1]"E kiwi, do you realise that if you do this, you will have to grow thick, strong legs so that you can rip apart the logs on the ground and you will loose your beautiful coloured feathers and wings so that you will never be able to return to the forest roof. You will never see the light on day again." [/size]

    [size=-1]All was quiet, and not a bird spoke. [/size]

    [size=-1]"E kiwi, will you come down from the forest roof?"[/size]

    [size=-1]Kiwi took one last look at the sun filtering through the trees and said a silent goodbye. Kiwi took one last look at the other birds, their wings and their coloured feathers and said a silent goodbye. Looking around once more, he turned to Tanehokahoka and said, [/size]

    [size=-1]"I will."[/size] [size=-1]Then Tanehokahoka turned to the other birds and said, [/size] [size=-1]"E Tui, because you were too scared to come down from the forest roof, from now on you will wear the two white feathers at your throat as the mark of a coward. Pukeko, because you did not want to get your feet wet, you will live forever in the swamp. Pipiwharauroa, because you were too busy building your nest, from now on you will never build another nest again, but lay your eggs in other birds nests. But you kiwi, because of your great sacrifice, you will become the most well known and most loved bird of them all." [/size]

    [size=-1]credit to http://www.maori.org.nz/[/size]
     
  2. Orsino2

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    Ohhhhhh... I remember hearing that story before. I think it was in a movie... Tom Green was in it.
     
  3. 8footsativa_chik

    8footsativa_chik Waka Chang-Chang

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    Hey!! i've never heard that one before. I like it though.

    I can translate if anyone wants me to, but im not great at speaking maori.

    The scientific reason for why the kiwi has very small wings is because when Newzaeland drifted away from Australia, it only took with it birds, reptiles and bugs. I mean reptiles excluding crocs, gators and snakes, and the kiwi had no natural predators and didnt need to ever fly to safety, and lost the use of its wings. Instead it would focus its energy on breeding large eggs instead. A kiwis egg is almost as big as its body.

    So the birds and animals lived like mammals and grew as big as them aswell, example: Moa = Giraffe; Great Haast Eagle (extinct) = Lion and so on.

    translations:
    Pipiwharauroa = Fantail
    Tanemahuta (say taa/neh/maa/hoo/taa) = God of the forest
     
  4. Orsino2

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    That, my friend, can get you a case of herpes.
     
  5. Frog_On_Ice

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    8footsativa_chik you have never heard it, well I'm glad a posted it a very important myth but no one has yet thought of the moral :)
     
  6. Orsino2

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    I just don't know what it is, but I feel this case strongly has to do with the morals on getting STDs and herpes (especially in my ass and such).
     
  7. Simulato

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    I remember this one! :)

    We studied it at intermediate... I even remember we had a class discussion on the moral... um... given how much attention I pay in class... :D
     
  8. Orsino2

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    I like being homeschooled... it's kind of like herpes in my ass... minus the herpes part, lol.

    Sorry if I'm being a little excessive with the whole "herpes in the ass" thing. It's driving my insane.
     
  9. FrozenMoonbeam

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    yeah i remember growing up on this and other myths of creation - I think they are so cool. I don't remeber herpes ever being involved before though.
     
  10. Frog_On_Ice

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    I think {I could be wrong} the moral is about being selfless & about helping others even if you have to make some sacrifaces, the Kiwi gave itself so readily which I admire :D
     
  11. Orsino2

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    There's a lot of people from NZ in here.

    It's odd. Like waking up and finding herpes in your ass in the morning, lol.
     
  12. Frog_On_Ice

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    I think us NZs our glad we're away from the states herpes epidemic lol :)
     
  13. Orsino2

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    Yeah... haha, too much herpes in the ass here. Probably due to Bush.
     
  14. 8footsativa_chik

    8footsativa_chik Waka Chang-Chang

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    LoL WTF??? what does that have to do with anything related to Kiwis and birds and stuff? weird...
     
  15. Orsino2

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    I Dunno. :p I need to sleep more often.
     
  16. ponydozer

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    Thats a wicked myth...I'd never heard it before either. I guess it means you will always reap the benefits of never thinking about reaping benefits. Hehe:)

    I had no idea the fantail laid its eggs in other birds nests, I thought it was only the cuckoo that did that.
     
  17. Orsino2

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    I didn't even know the cuckoo did that.
     
  18. Frog_On_Ice

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