Convincing someone drugs are okay

How do you do it? Especially when they're so set in their ways.

I'll give you a little background for what I'm working with.

I recently started dating a girl about a month ago. She had just started smoking pot, within the last six months, whereas I've been experimenting since I was 12 (I'm 20 now).

First week we were together I dosed MDMA at my birthday party. She said it was okay, but as soon as I started rolling she flipped her shit and we had to leave the party. Car ride home she is sobbing, I'm rolling harder than I've ever rolled and I'm sucker for cute girls so I tell her I won't take drugs while I'm with her. Of course to her, alcohol isn't 'really' a drug so that's okay.

Fast forward a month, I get a chance to do LSD, which has been a dream of mine for a very long time. VERY long time. I tell her, she gets pissed, blah blah blah.

Now, the fundamental problem here is I don't consider psychedelics drugs, more part of my belief system. I've had friends cured of pill addictions because of psychedelics and they've really helped me in my life.

My question is, if she is totally against dosing and understanding why I'm so adamant about this, how can I change her mind?

 

Ask her what specifically she is afraid of concerning psychedelics. Then address each issue with honesty and supporting documentation.

Explain to her that the drug laws are not based on harm the substance does, but rather the accepted use in medicine. Often people are under the mistaken assumption that certain drugs are illegal because they are dangerous. That could not be further from the truth. But it is that mentality that causes her to not consider alcohol a drug, even though it is much more destructive and deadly than any psychedelic.

 

If it is going to be a deal breaker then shit or get off the pot. Just tell her if she is not going to leave over the issue then learn to deal with it. You can't change her mind but you can give her incentive to change her own. I personally don't have a lot of patience for hysteria.

 

first i want to ask, are you really really into her? i know it's early on, but do you feel a real connection w/her, beyond looks and such? say mentally or spiritually?

there is no convincing people sometimes, i've learned that...but then again you never know. i'd honestly start by telling her what you told us about it curing some of your friends' addictions to pills.

then perhaps let her read a few trip reports (good ones, not bad ones seriously). pick one or two from here or another site and let her read it...

you could bring up how mdma used to be used in therapy sessions, and how most psychs do have a spiritual aspects and benefits, that's a legit truth for me, butpeople who don't see eye to eye with me might think that's a crazy thing to say.

i wish you luck, and if anything pops in my head i'll come back

btw don't make it seem like mariujana is a gateway drug, but find out what she likes about it. OH OH OH and dude, if she supports alcohol, you can list the numerous con's of alcohol in comparison to that of lsd and such!

idk good luck, but in this take a time to really reflect on this chick and if she is good for you in every way

 

one thing in life ive learned is, you cant change anyone but yourself. Either she comes around on her own accord or she doesnt. Don't sacrifice who you are for a cute girl. I did for 6 years and I regret it a lot!

do your thing, if she truly likes you then the things you do wont be a problem. if not then she doesnt really like you, just her idea of who she thinks you are.

youre 20 (im 21) we both got a lot of living to do, dont waist it on someone who tries to hold you back.

 

...or take advice from Danny DeVito on Always Sunny in Philadelphia and spike her beer with acid hahaha

 

I believe I am a green monkey and am one with the occult. Feel my monkey wrath.

so it is.

 

Let me rephrase, I consider them drugs, but I hold them in very high regards. Unlike some others.

 

Okay, fair enough

but why change her mind? Why not let her change yours?

 

well he h asn't done lsd, so he shouldn't back away from the light until he's experienced at least once...if that is in fact what he wants to do.

 

Because I feel that she is wrong. She follows the mind-set that LSD puts holes in your brain and nothing good can come of it. I'm under the impression that psychedelics can be dangerous, but done in the right setting with the right mind-set can lead to some amazing things. I don't have a problem not doing the drugs, this has just been a dream of mine for so long and I want to experience it at least once.

Pretty much.

 

the thing is that I bet she feels just as strongly that you are wrong. Facts are facts, but beliefs are much stronger.

 

Maybe you can't change her mind and the solution is instead two adults mutually consenting to agreeing upon "to each his own", and living happily ever after.

 

id positive rep you, but im not sure how to do that haha

 

i think you should give up trying to "convert" her... maybe try letting her be her own person since you are still searching for who you are as well?

Pushing your will onto her, or anyone, is a sure way to drive them off. Surely your own experience has led you to understand that there may be more at work than meets the eye. She may have good reasons, and the psychedelic experience isnt for everyone. Even those who choose that path should do so when they are ready, and not when someone else tells them they should.

My advice, lay off her about it. When shes ready she will let you know.

 

then why are you not studying mycology and botany.. you can begin a life growing Peyote and Magic Mushroom.. If you was so interested in psychedelics then this is where you focus your energy on. Not some stupid strips of paper, and funny tabs from a dance rave party.....

 

you don't think LSD is a valuable psychedelic orison?

 

You cant change her mind, no matter what you do. She sounds ignorant. Dump her now so you don't get too attatched. If you can't take drugs together its not going to work.. Sorry

 

i didnt say that.. but do to the illicit market of LSD its difficult to say thats what you have consumed...

 

I thought real LSD was extint? And isnt LSD different from Acid?