I ordered an ounce of Salvia leaves from an organic website that seemed to be pretty legit. Only spent $15 and got a week to kill, so Ill let you all know how legit they are when I get the leaves. I was wondering though, whats the best way to take them? Ive heard about chewing them which didnt appeal to me unless it lasts longer that way. I had intended on grinding up and smoking them with weed. Anyway though, like said, what is the best way to go about handling the leaves?
Chewing them does last longer but is supposedly not as intense and you have to eat a ton of them. Personally I would really be interested in hearing someone report on this method of ingestion, otherwise just grind them and smoke them. Why did you go with leaves if you were not planning on chewing them?
Because you get more smoke from 1oz of leaves than 1g of 15x and more also means fewer but more intense trips... for $5 less too I think you only have to eat a gram, if that. Ill give it a shot since Ill have the opportunity, got a whole ounce of the stuff haha
dont be a noob and just guess a dose, learn what you're ingesting. Refer to erowid at least. www.erowid.org/salvia/salvia_dose.shtml They have a common chewed dried leaf dose at 6 grams and you would probably want to go closer to 10 grams to try to match a bowl of 15x
I dont own a scale so Im forced to guess the weight haha. I just dont think chewing 6 grams is worth it but we'll see. Ive got two bong bowls so my plan is to grind up roughly a gram of weed and Salvia, put half and half in both bowls, boom boom falling into infinity. Thats what Im planning to do with my first go anyway. Should be here in time for my day surf trip >=D
I've quidded (chewed) dry salvia leaves before, as well as smoked them, they are extremely bitter, and it is a lot mellower than smoking it. It would probably be better to quid fresh leaves. Also, I find pairing salvia with tobacco is much better than pairing it with marijuana, the tobacco burns much hotter, and adds to your experience.
I never acheived a breakthrough smoking unextracted leaves... they've done something to me... but I'm still not sure what as it is nothing like what the extract DID TO ME
The point of smoking leaves isn't to "break through," you can still learn just as much, if not more, at a lower dose. I have.
Interesting. The breakthrough was a bit much for me. It felt too dark and maniacal. Like it was trying to tell me that my entire existance is just a joke... How would you reccomend a more spiritual-oriented psychonaught like myself to go about quidding?
well, it would be best to use fresh leaves, but if you have dry leaves, youll have to soak them in water first, for about 10 minutes or so. The salvinorin is absorbed sublingually (under your tongue) so brushing your teeth at the start would help with absorption. Once your leaves are nice and wet, you can try to roll them up into a "quid" and stick it under your tongue. But usually its nearly impossible to make them stay together if they were dried. Also, the mazatec shamans would squeeze the juices out of the fresh leaves into a drink, I've never done that, but I would like to try it. Chew your quid for 30-45 minutes, or as long as possible until you cant stand it. (it is EXTREMELY bitter)
Will I have the thought compacity/moter skills to spit it out when I'm confortable? I suppose I should go read some TR's on this method on consumption. One question- would you reccomend this to someone who does not want to repeat his breakthrough experiance with smoked extract?
You are very much still aware, I only did it once, and it was very subtle, you really have to pay attention to it to notice anything. And it would be a very good way to become more familiar and comfortable with Salvia.
Bad news, theyre not shipping it to me. I live in Florida, where its illegal, and I for some reason thought that the website would. Oh well, going to try growing some instead... gurilla style (not up to try growing something in my apartment (except mushrooms))
they sell this extracted shit at the store in town..i gave a mom of my sons buddy supreme shit for buying it for 14 year olds...threw her off my property....the plants grow in the ditches all over my county....EVERYWHERE be careful
Well if the conditions are correct then they can grow anywhere, just like bringing a plant from South Africa to Australia.
make your own extract. couple buddies of mine did this once and the shit turned out great. something like 10x cheaper than what you can buy in the headshops too. the leaves themselves just aren't potent enough. you can smoke a blunt of em, but it'll just give you a slight somewhat disphoric buzz. i am kinda curious though as far as how the natives originally did it. they had some crazy ritual they did with the leaves that involved chewing them but they first processed them somehow. you can probably find out more on erowid or searching google or something. but really, if youre lookin to get fucked up on some salvia, youre gonna wanna make the extract. i dont remember it being that complicated either.
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