I have always wanted to do this but nasal is just such an effective route. Also ketamine tends to irritate my stomach, it is fairly caustic and basic, and i often need to eat bread and such food after a lot of ketamine use to help my tummy not feel so raw, so chowing down a half gram might give you some discomfort and i imagine is even a good way to get yourself some bleeding from your stomach lining (most likely only from multiple oral dosings). here are all the oral ketamine TRs http://www.erowid.org/experiences/e...rch=&A1=-1&Lang=&Group=-1&Str=&Intensity=&I2=
My friend was a sitter for 2-3 people who did a shot of ketamine out of a shot glass (yes a shot of ketamine) and said they got pretty f'd up. One of them k holed and puked and I guess the other two were like in a sub k hole but very dissassociated state. It may last longer but I think the other roas would be preferable and probably conserve some k which is always a good thing with that stuff.
hey I took a 600mg oral dose. put the k (finely powdered) into a small amount of hot hot water, stirred it, than filled the cup to the top with simply orange. its way mellower than nasal. takes an hour or two to start being able to feel it, but than it stretches for hours to come. like i said, just feels like a real mellow k trip but lasts for 4-6 hours. not worth it imo. 600mg nasal would hit me a lot harder haha, even if it would be over within an hour for me..
only did it once with around 100mg - only got threshold effects, and at that time if i railed that much it woudla been alot more worthwhile.
It happens all the time with psychs man. Like, you haven't had enough to be kicked into a different reality but you've had too much to enjoy it casually. It's teetering on the knife, so to speak.
Yes that's true but I was thinking in the contation a k hole gives me an impression of being 'lower' or 'below' and sub means 'below' so it came off in my head as below the k hole, but really it's above the k hole. :eggnog:
i hate the term "k hole", i think it's a complete misnomer and a poor reflection of the actual state. there's nothing 'hole-ish' about it.
why do you say that? I think it's actually a very accurate term especially when you use it around others.
I'd agree - it's more like your awareness shrinks to a pinhead. To be honest though I find sub K hole doses much more recreational, as K holes as so hard to remember (and after I come out of the K hole I don't have the desire to do more, but after I come out of a sub K hole dose the only thing on my mind is MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE). DXM is great for when you don't have any K, but nothing comes close to the real drug
This is a negative point for me. This is one reason I like the k-hole, it bypasses ketamine's natural addictive nature. Shrinking awareness? Man . . . I feel my awareness becomes like the atmosphere and just expands in a strange mental dimension, thoughts come from new directions, it's pretty wild. I don't do K holes around others, that's a waste of a k hole. k holes are best done alone, lying down, with eyes closed, letting thoughts come and watching them, and watching yourself. You can't remember a k hole for the same reason you can't remember your actual mental state in LSD; you can't have a photographic capture of something which is not compatible with the sober mind trying to read the photograph. Give it more attention, stop using it as a social thing, use it as a solo sacrament. I give a k hole as much weight as an acid trip almost, you really gotta give it respect, and then you'll see why Leary said it ranks beside Lucy. And like i've said before it can take practice to "get it" and figure out what you must do during a k hole to maximize its effect. my 2c
Ketamine aint no LSD to me. I'll admit the first time was an amazing experience but I was also already on Ecstasy when I did my first K hole so other factors contributed. K hole was no less addicting to me than lower doses, probably certain personality types don't do anymore after a k hole but I would eat those for breakfast and then go back for more. If anything I was probably the opposite I would do like a small bump at work and then leave it alone, but when I was home I always tried to go for at least 2 K holes for like a 3-4 hour trip. I tried for awhile to follow it and utilize it but eventually it just got to a point where I just wanted to disconnect and go numb with K hole/bubble, that's why I compare it to heroin sometimes. But drugs do effect individuals differently. If I try another dissassociative again it would probably be a high dose DXM trip unless I found some PCP from a reliable source, but I may be over this class of drugs unless were counting salvia.
500 mg is the max I experiment... K-hole for sure, ticket for the other (fifth ?) dimension so difficult to imagine and discribe when you're back to earth
i dumped about 700mg of crystal ket into a cup of tea once, and got very high. [though had a tolerance at the time, so 100mg nasal would yield mild effects] i always found oral doses in the realm of 200mg to help my chronic knee pain a lot when i was working at a thrift store. very different effects though
i dumped about 700mg of crystal ket into a cup of tea once, and got very high. Hello Shermin, do you mean melted on the tea of a cap of tea ?
no, it was hot black tea, i just dumped the crystals into the cup, stirred, then drank it. it tasted like CRAP....coffee would have masked the taste better.