I completely screwed up my first time.

You know that is the most irritating thing about homosexuals. You all seem so fucking hyper-sensitive and hyper-vigilant and take every opportunity to jump on presumed anti-gay remarks. I notice more and more that homosexuals seem to have a much bigger problem with their sexuality than others do.

Take a chill-pill VG. You have projected your own fears and insecurities in the quoted post much more than any of the ones you mentioned.

I know that is a generalization, but one I notice more and more.

 

Because the OP is our family, not related by blood, I dont even know him, but he's one of our kids. Thats the reaction you will get if you mess with one of our kids

 

Attacking my post because of what the others have said seems just as indiscriminate as any stereotype to me.

 

So you say you want acceptance and equality in society yet your words seperate you and set you apart from the society you say shuns you.
Make up your mind, you can't have it both ways.

Why isn't he one of "my" kids as well? None of my posts could in any way be construed to be anti-gay. You tried really hard to twist this thread into some gay-bashing thing and you just fail. That was how I actually viewed this kid, as a HipForums family member. Your the one that is singling him out based on his sexual preferences. Nobody else really brought it up as an issue but you. I'm sure much of the same cautions would have been given if it were a straight girl/guy in a hetero situation.

Wow, if he's your family and you have a problem with other people trying to look out for one of your "kids" well being, thats a pretty disfunctional family.

If you keep being on the lookout for anti-gay sentiments you'll find them, even where they don't exist apparently.

 

I dont think anyones really expecting acceptance, not past the college save the world stage anyway. As for equality, well thats relative. In a lot of areas well do actually get it better

He's not living with the parents at 15 maybe for other reasons, but likely the same kind of reasons I've heard time after time. You and others can get on a messageboard and say that if you had a gay son you would love him no matter what, but reality is vastly different.

Doesnt really matter, is kind of handled outside your field of vision anyway, is likely this kid is going to go on finish high school, college or start a career whilst being supported by one of us.

That post where I quoted everyone, individually there is some good intent, but collectively over time it just all starts to sound like 'dont be gay you'll end up dead' or that the true purpose is about trying to scare him out of his gayness rather than concern over his welfare. Still, invidually the tone of some of those posts suggests alterior motives.

Which is another reason he's more one of our kids, you aint really going to be able to get in his head, understand how he interprets things.

Like with mentioning Jeffrey Dahmer, the way it gets interpreted, you are basically saying that apart form his cousins, the only parts of society that are going to help you - well they're all serial killers, and probably sound like his father, a father he's not living with, a father not helping him. Doesnt matter if that was your intent or not, its how it gets interpreted.

But by the sounds of it, he can take care of himself, sounded a bit like me. at 15/16 I was chasing guys up to twice my age, totally self sufficient at 17, thought most other guys my age were embarrassing, and too hyper anyway to sit round and brood.

Lastly, the best way to get you lot to speak your mind is by getting you angry, we learnt that one off the girls

 

Back to Cobe,

Sounds like this guy just freaked out cos he found out you were underage and you'd already had sex. If you need assistance just find one with sweet eyes and establish your age and just the friend zone upfront.

Or if its just about getting your rocks off, then continue as planned.


But you already know all this shit

 

This was one of my biggest complaints with GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) back in the '90s. They monitor media and were finding a homophobe under every nuanced and often funny comment.

Remember that homophobic Nuttin Honey commercial where all the cowboys asked the cook what was for breakfast and he said "Nuttin Honey" and they pulled their guns on him? That kind of stuff was a stretch and many of us chastised GLAAD for not picking battles more carefully.

Some blacks see racism everywhere, some gays see homophobia everywhere, and some militant lesbians are doubly blessed by seeing anti-gay male chauvinism everywhere.

Sometimes you have to step back and say, well that is the humour of 90% of the population and it wasn't actually mean-spirited, just a little insensitive and give it a pass.

 

You do understand that is solely your interpretation, not what was actually written, don't you?

I'm the one who mentioned Dahmer, not because I was trying to "scare the gay out of him" (what a moronic notion) but rather to try to illustrate to him to be aware of wolfs in sheep's clothing. Same point could have been made mentioning Ted Bundy, but considering Cobe's sexual orientation, I thought he could relate to Dahmers victims on a more emotional level.

Getting people angry so they speak their mind is childish. Then when I or someone else does get angry enough to speak their mind, your quick to jump up and scream "ANTI-GAY!!! HOMOPHOBE!!! DISCRIMINATION!!!!" and feel justified and validated because of the response you yourself elicited through antagonism.

Do you grasp the idea that I personally do not care about your sexual preference, it's a non-issue with me. What I do get annoyed at is the exact type of mind-set you are displaying here. You don't want equality and acceptance, you want segregation and societal shunning, otherwise you lose your "specialness" and just become another person. You want to set yourself apart and then complain and cry foul when somebody takes notice or treats you differently based upon the separation that you promote.

Again I realize that my comments are generalizations and people run the whole spectrum. But there are enough that fit the generalization to make it a valid observation.




Cobe, glad your safe and ok, and please ignore VG and understand most people who responded did so out of concern for your safety regardless of your sexual orientation.

 

A tangent at something Vanilla's friend said !

Bad advice, 22 year old female.

I've heard stuff like this too:

'Get a girlfriend, Why don't you have a girlfriend' 'When are you going to get a girlfriend'

If I could just choose to be in love with someone, I probably would ... and life would then be some kind of fantasy fairytale, but it's not.

I can't just go and GET someone.
If it works like that for some people, congradulations.
But that doesn't work for me.
Love is fate and courage and a whole lot of things, but nobody falls in love simply by DECIDING to.

And anyway, me having a girlfriend?
It would probably be very superficial, very contrived, stale and cold for us both.
I care for women by not harassing them or intefering with their lives.

end tangent. ^^

 

lol, I was one of the guys telling him to be careful and I'm gay. also---heterosexual young people are never abused right? by your reasoning heterosexuality should be a safeguard of abuse among teens.

actually, I don't think I'm gonna add anything else to this exchange. I think PB has already nailed it down to what it is. Someone should close this thread before it gets any more ridiculous.

 

1) You made this incredibly personal. This isn't about you and what you experienced growing up. You've taken your personal experiences and cast them upon the perceived intentions of the members in this thread.

2) Also, about your above quote; we're not guinea pigs for some social experiment in which you can say what you like to get us to react a certain way. You get members riled up and then tell them they're reacting a certain way? Those girls you "got that one off" are called bitches for a reason.

 

Those examples are just another diminishing tactic arent they? Its only about me, I'm just one crazy gay nutter, no other gay guys feel that way. Or maybe they do, just dont bother trying to sweep back the ocean with a broom


As for the angry thing, get them angry and this stuff comes out, which is a better reflection of their true nature:

Trying to get them angry in real life, its the quickest way to work out which guys you might later end up having trouble with, a night out with your gal friends boyfriends, camp it up straight away so you know if its going to be safe to stick around once they start getting drunk.

Or in the OPs case, at his age, camp it up so you know which relatives not to get stuck alone with.

So if a gay guy is hyper sensitive, hyper camp, hyper vigilant around you the main reason is to draw out that inner homophobe in much the same way the girls get hyper sensitive, hyper disgusted, hyper emotional to bring out that inner pig.

None of this really had to do anything with the repliers, was just trying to point the OP in the right direction, just like the rest of you, our kids come first, doesnt matter if everyone else tries to claim I'm a nutter, some things will click with him

 

I understand all of the above. But you rather judgmentally presumed other members motives. I have to agree with you, there were some posts that seemed to be disguised homophobia in the form of good advice, which was more judgmental than having any helpful content. Some also projected their own feelings and stereotypes about 'free butt sex' and 'a weekend of anal rape', which goes to show you how those people feel about homosexuals in general. But I think you went a little overboard.

On a side note; people can say and do things when angry that are not their true feelings or intentions/motives. Everybody has done this at times throughout their lives. Getting someone upset to see how they react, or to reveal their "inner pig" is not always a good judge of character.

 

there were no homophobic comments on this board. seriously, you two, you're both overreacting. just because someone mentions the word 'anal' doesn't make it a targeted insult at homosexuals. grow up guys!

 

Thanks for this thread -very entertaining and informative!!

 

Wow =| Erm I really didn't expect this thread to get so out of hand? Lol. I'm just gonna cover up this idea that he screwed me off because of my age - he didn't, when I told him I'm 15 he said that he knew anyway because he'd asked my friend what my age was, when he was texting her asking to meet up with me.

I'm just gonna leave this thread here and step away..

 

You should never go in so quick, omg. Your ass has to get used to it. I normally use my finger first then my dildo but if I put the dildo in first it always fucking hurts because your ass just got fucking raped and is trying to close and if he takes it out fast that's even worse lol. the first time I actually did this I was on the edge of crying to lol was in the shower and just took it a little slower because I kinda figured my assholes is closed tight and I'm rushing something in, something bound to go wrong.