A 50 mg taste(snort) of DPT

i have been slightly obsessed about this particular molecule ever since reading Toad's primer in the 1998 Entheogen Review. Once i became somewhat familiar with N,N,DMT, i became even more intrigued by DPT.

i have dark purple (kinda scary looking) DPT from an RC vendor. i did a couple of tests parachuting increasingly large doses to confirm a basic lack of immediate toxicity. Then i was going to take a 25 mg snort and i got a very rude interruption - my bad for forgetting to turn the phone ringer off. Anyway, lots of food and bs later and no snort that day. Next morning, new day, empty stomach, ringer off.

i made two 25 mg lines. Thanks neuroptican for suggesting this - i often suggest this when people are trying DMT - fix a couple little doses. That way if you like it you can redose before being fully baseline . . .

Insulffation was kind of horrible on a theoretical front - dark purple powder up into the sinuses of someone who considers herself a very strong smoking/eating ROA girl . . . And yet, . . . honestly, it really wasn't that painful/uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, it did not feel good, but it was not agonizing or unmanageable. Anyone could take a 50 mg snort of this material, especially if i could.

Effects came on after 4-5 minutes and built quickly but not to a very impressive point. Seemed like a fascinating, deeply psychedelic space. i waited until 20-25 minutes had passed from the first snort and took another 25 mgs in the other nostril. Both nostrils were now congested.

A few minutes later and it was on. Overwhelming effects built very rapidly and held me for a good 40 minutes. It began with a tremendous level of vibration. i seldom vibrate/shake like that and tend to associate it with either resistance or mediocre material. My sense here was that this was part of the fundamental nature of DPT. My limbs felt like they were vibrating in time to the music. The music was tremendously enhanced.

The body load was very heavy and encouraged surrender/submission based on my psychedelic experience to date. i did my best.

i could see how someone could very easily panic on this material, in a highly intoxicated and stimulated state, mistaking the extreme vibration for seizure and heavy body load for dying . . . i felt like i was dying/dissolving on just 50 mgs.

With ego somewhat intact, trying to surrender and let go, i found myself suddenly becoming a bit more in touch with at least the sexual parts of my body. This material was highly erotic and though almost gone i was incredibly horny.

For the next half hour or so it was indescribable. Much more a feeling than a vision, though closed eyes yielded expanses of bright light with no figures.

It was like the music was making love to me in a thought-synaesthetic manner. How to describe what i mean? The music was radically enhanced. i was stimulated, vibrating and horny. The trip was very psychedelic and heavy. My thoughts were broken into swirly pieces, as was my mind. My whole consciousness/self felt like a sphere that was broken into pieces defined by sinuous, swirly lines. These pieces, defined by these swirly lines, would move apart in time and synaesthetically with the music, then would re-coalesce back into the sphere but still filled with the sinuous lines . . . then explode back out into the pieces, . . . . orgasmically, sometimes at the point of explosion (expected, right) but sometimes at the point of re-coalescement.

Oh well, that's as close as i can come at this point in time. A powerful and profound experience. My sense was that any higher dose would be more visual and require a lot more in the way of surrender from me. i am left with fear for taking a higher dose, especially the recommended 200 mgs. Yet, i do know i will try this again, probably starting at the 75 mgs level and seeing where that takes me. Am i super-sensitive? Highly resistant? A bit of both? i will eventually find out one way or another . . . .

 

Do you think you will try Freebasing DPT? After my previous 75 mg im injected trip, it does pique my interest but I probably won't do it. I think I would enjoy trying it with someone else eventhough I do like the meditative quality of the trip.

 

i would love to but i cannot fool-proof the multiple, different teks i have read. The one on erowid looks solid and i don't have those ingredients/chemicals, so i guess it is not meant to be . . .

 

Very good report

I know it's not up to me, and I've never tried DPT, but I'm thinking you should just dive into a heavier dose. As with many psychedelics, I'm sure the anxiety and probably even the discomfort is lessened with higher doses, considering there is less of you remaining in reality to be anxious or uncomfortable. This seems to be the case anyway, based on what I've read about DPT. Sure, the comeup would still be rough, but I'm guessing the comeup would be a bit more swift with a higher dose, as well, but I could be wrong about that.

 

I hate to recommend it but it's the truth, there is little to no body load with injection :drool5:

 

I don't think you're super sensitive SC, that sounds like what 50mg would do to me. Concentrated ego toxin.

 

Fair enough and based on other experience with tryptamines, what i expected. Definately fear and resistance then. He he. i will definately be doing this again, but i am going to have to bump up gradually . . .

 

Snorting this compound feels like jamming a big hypodermic needle full of a painful anesthetic into your nose, which immediately spreads throughout your body from that point destroying any sense of what you once thought was real and creating hundreds upon hundreds of new senses in parts of your body that you did not know exist and stimulating these senses with feelings (well not feelings as the senses are not "feel," or "touch," they are something else you've never experienced) that are neither pain nor pleasure, or anything else, but pure ridiculousness. That was a run on sentence. And then you look up and everything looks like part of the zerg hivemind from starcraft...

And I say you should increase dose gradually, possibly with a different ROA, so as not to have the long come up time of snorting.

 

Aww really? fuck my principles.

 

Well if you're using heroin too, I might try to refrain from the needle, its really only good for dpt and maybe dmt as far as hallucinogens go. When I've used it for Ketamine and methylone it was pretty compulsive. As with all drugs and methods (freebase pipe comes to mind) there is a bit distorted image about the needle.

I think injection truly is worse with iv tho. There was one methylone binge I had via im where I felt like a pin cushion in the morning after but rarely do I even get bruising in even one spot after im injection. The person who introduced me to im ketamine did have track marks on her arm from iv so be careful. She injected me twice with iv, I don't think I could iv myself.

As long as you are somewhat cautious, clean and meticulous with im injection it can be a great route (applies to iv I'm sure too but that should be used sparingly if at all) There is a somewhat clinical/procedural/ritual aspect to the method moreso than any other and I know that is appealing to some of our psyches on here, including mine so be careful if you go this route.

 

i highly suggest sectioning out your dosage also. i feel a lot better doing two lines of dpt, i do not know about this purple stuff you have but i doubt that it is much different in your nasal passage lol. but yeah, IMO it is a lot easier for me to do a bit, get my body used to that stench, then finish it up like a big man.

goodness i get all oooog thinkin bout it. ooog.



i have been thinking of IM but........... i am not yet
guerrilla, you say no body load - so you do not get thrown down?

 

Thanks for reporting Spicey! This one's really got me intrigued but I know I'm nowhere near ready for trying this one yet. I need a lot more tryptamine experience under my belt and need more practice in dealing with comeups, as they are lately becoming increasingly more uncomfortable each and every trip for some reason. Once I settle in and get closer to plateau I'm fine, but the unreasonably rough comeups lately have been enough to have significant influence on my decision to take a break.

The erotic element many users report on this chem has got my attention too. It's kind of difficult for me to grasp, being physically turned on in such a state of psychological dissolution (psyches completely obliterate my libido and any ability to concentrate on anything sexual), but I guess it's one of those things you have to experience for yourself.

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to hearing your future trials with higher dosages.

 

I don't know exactly what you mean by 'thrown down' but Ive always went in with intention of lying down. I have gotten up and walked around on it without a problem (75 mgs so far.) I understand thats not comparable to the 200 mgs but what I experience seems far less heavy than what spiceycat has described even at 50 mgs. There is a slight feeling in the stomach but it reminds me of like a slight shroom nausea and probably not even as intense. Not something I would try on the dancefloor but I don't feel glued to my spot either.

Keep in mind the listed high end for Im injection on erowid is 125 mg compared to the 200 mg of insuffalation so I think this assessment I'm making is fair but I cant say for sure.

 

i am forced to lay down for the initial trip to the peak; i can also get up and walk around fine but i find that my body would much rather be down, thus "thrown down".
this isn't a problem for me. i am just curious.

 

Ha well its pretty much second nature to lay down after injecting because its I guess a slight rush you could say. I started injecting with ketamine which hit pretty good via injection, so I think I have a conditioned response to like fall back after and prepare myself.

 

When you explore tryptamines deeper you'll find they are almost always highly erotic. Mushrooms, 4aces, DPT, miprocin . . . all aphrodesiacs. DMT not so much oddly.

 

Feel free to file under TMI, but what the hell: Here's my description of DMT erotica.

Occasionally after the peak, i have noticed that DMT makes me quite horny.

Anyway, about a year or so ago, i started thinking about "Hyperspace Sex" after reading Terence McKenna's INSANE description in "True Hallucinations."

So, while alone one day (Thinking this would be preliminary research to some really fun experiments with my husband in the future . . . ) i loaded 40 mgs into my pipe and masturbated myself into a state of extreme arousal. i then vaped the 40 mgs, put the pipe down and tried to finish what i had started. Ha!

This quickly became a disaster. But for the funniest, and most obvious (if you use DMT) reasons. i was launching! Within one minute i couldn't have defined things like body, sex, maturbation, clitoris, DMT, orgasm, etc.

So, from that day forwards, i have held the firm belief that "Hyperspace Sex" is a myth.

Okay, so what about lower doses? There is A LOT of potential here, but my sense is that one person would have to take a lot less than the other to kind of . . . how to put it . . . stay present, stay in charge, direct activities, whatever . . .

If my husband had been home and horney during my DPT experience, sex could easily have ensued as long as he wasn't looking for a really active, connected partner. Ooops, that's an erection melter for him.

Sooo, my conclusion is maaayyybbbeee on lower doses. Experiencing arousal and eroticism, yes. Masturbation, possibly. Sex? i wish.

 

Regarding ROA, 3 days after the fact:

IM is a route that i recognize as efficient and appealing, but it is not something i am willing to pursue at this point in time. Same for with Ketamine experiments . . .

Insulffating 50 mgs was much more conceptually uncomfortable than physically uncomfortable, especially at the time of consumption. A number of hours (yes hours) later i did notice an uncomfortable burning sensation kind of high up in my sinuses. This was not severe and passed quickly.

With insulffation, it seems that one needs to make a firm commitment to maximal dosage level, prepare the material in advance, in two even lines, then proceed. Bumping up within a session is not possible. As soon as the snort was taken, that nostril was clogged. Two nostrils to work with equals two lines max.

40 to 50 minutes in, after the second dose (had insulffated total of 50 mgs), after the peak effects had passed, i suddenly reared up out of bed, rapidly grabbed my purge bucket and let fly with stomach contents - water and snot/bile. This lasted for a minute or so - miserable retching with nostrils clogged, but then passed quickly and was not repeated.

i have had minor and fascinating physical aftereffects lasting for days, including:

1.) Ongoing sinus problems. It's been like having a cold with nothing but the sinus component. Like having an allergy flare up without the sapping of energy. It is getting better each day, but i have produced gallons of snot.

2.) A pernicious case of the munchies. This is partially psychological (Ego to Frontal Lobes: FEED ME SEYMOUR! PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!). i'm going with it as it is getting me above the "Underweight" part of the BMI . . . This is also getting better/lesser each day.


i have had a lot of time this weekend to think about my fear and resistance issues and i did vape a breakthrough dose of DMT which was very helpful. i am now very confident that i will try this again relatively soon, at the 75 mgs level. After talking and PMing with people i am confident that i should be able to reach the deeper/breakthrough effects without having to act like someone 20 years younger (i.e. by snorting 100, 110, 120, 150 mgs rather than 200). Regardless, the bumping up process will happen gradually - no proceding from 60 to 200 mgs.

 

Yah both DMT and 5-me0-DMT are incredibly erotic on the down swing of the trip for me as well. There is like kind of a release I feel on DMT when I start coming back and thats when I start feeling horny on dpt its almost the opposite I feel a release on that as well and I stop feeling horny.

I think hyperspace sex on dmt is possible on a low dose though but probably difficult, (its also a very short trip) I think it would be fairly easy for me to have sex on dpt.

 

Having never knowingly tried DPT i remember getting some purple speckled E stamped with a Diamond in Germany and after swallowing 3 or 4 the effects were something like your trip report but with a rush possibly there were cut slightly with DPT.