Was it meant to be funny? Smoking increases your chances of getting lung cancer and other diseases greatly if you smoke for many years, and that's bad. Smoking doesn't take over you life though. No one whores out their ass for tobacco. No one whores out their kids/grandma/dog or does absolutely anything, no matter how low, for tobacco. You don't get HIV or Hep C from tobacco. You're probably not going to loose your job, destroy your family and friendships, or destroy your future from being addicted to tobacco. You may die OLD from tobacco, but you are not going to die young from tobacco (unless you start a fire while smoking).
Yes, she says this guy is alive and the other three are dead. My bad. Whether it's one out of four or more who die, still dangerous
Just for the record, I don't think that people who try heroin or who become addicts are necessarily dumb or bad people. Everyone that I knew who became an addict seemed pretty nice and smart. I think it probably had more to do with being self-destructive and reckless. I'm also not telling anyone not to do it. I'm just saying don't lie to yourself about the chances that you screw yourself.
THANK YOU! I agree if you're going to hate on the opiate users gtfo, respectively. It's just a waste of your time.
My best friend died of a heroin overdose and i know you said you just want to try it but thats how it started for him. im not saying dont do it but be sure of what your getting into.
but if shit's fucked up, then you will want to escape, and you will become pretty heavily addicted fast, and without noticing it happening until it's too late. It's all about the motivation behind using it, so think about that first. One dose of heroin isn't really such a horrible thing, but just know and understand the risks and be smart.[/QUOTE] this is a really good point it really all depends on the person.
People do prostitute for tobacco, ever heard of prison? If There was a shortage of food yo may find yourself prostituting for food. And to come on here saying weed/shrooms is so much better for you is plain an ignorant as well the makings of a cock measuring contest. Some people like to smoke weed, some crack, and some heroin. The minute people start minding their own fuckin business and stop pushing their idealogities on each othe will be a day the human race can stem foward. I.E. Joe heroin user is no better or worse than burt weed smoker. END OF STORY!
I don't think anyone was attacking the user I think they were attacking the drug. If you honestly think heroin is as safe and harmless as weed you are a moron, ignorant, or completely bullshitting yourself. Weed is certainly not harmless but the percentage and statistics of addicts, overdoses, medical attention and other dumb shit from marijuana users compared to that of heroin users is not even the same ballpark. Marijuana is used by a shit ton of more people too.
For the record, I hate cigarettes. I started smoking when I was a teenager and it was a horrible decision that i'm paying for now because I haven't been able to quit, even after many, many tries. I would be perfectly happy if prepackaged cigarettes (i dont really have a problem with pure tobacco..it doesnt have any of the nasty additives) were made illegal so i wouldn't even have the temptation around anymore. But I fail to see the comparison between cigarettes and alcohol. If i had started shooting heroin when I was young instead of smoking cigarettes, I would probably either be dead or a complete slave to heroin by now. Cigarettes make me smell bad, feel like shit, and they're slowly sending me to the grave, but they haven't ruined my life. I wasn't aware that the opiate forum was only for people that liked opiates. my bad. I thought a free speech forum meant i could come into any forum I wished and voice my opinion. Maybe my opinion will change someones mind about trying heroin and they won't go down that road. Maybe not. Either way, I have ever right to voice my opinion. I also don't think I'm better than anyone. I don't think people who use heroin are stupid and terrible people. How exactly did you draw that conclusion because I never said that? I think heroin is a stupid and worthless drug. I think a lot of smart people make a bad decision to try it and end up hooked or dead. As far as shrooms and weed go, I was only making the point that these drugs aren't very harmful to your health and they serve to enhance certain experiences, while drugs like heroin are used as as an escape for people that don't want to deal with real life. Other drugs also serve the same purpose. I don't think i'm better than people who use hard drugs because I used to be a pill popper. I took a hell of a lot of xanax at one point in my life because I couldn't face life. It was a stupid decision. I know plenty of people that drink every day because they can't face life sober, and I think thats equally as sad as using heroin. I can't really see heroin improving one's quality of life. And also, if you have a problem with tree-hugging hippies, why are you in a forum called the HIP forums...maybe you should be the one to get out. I made a mistake, I meant to say 1 out of 4 make it out alive. And you're right, it doesn't really matter. still a dangerous drug.
By now the Friday has come and gone when he was going to try heroin. I've gotta admit, I'm curious about it myself, but I've never touched the stuff nor do I plan to. I've done acid, and I liked it so much I swore I'd never do it again for fear I'd get hooked. I've kept that promise to myself for well over a decade. As for heroin, injectables scare the hell out of me. You're taking something of unknown purity, unknown strength, and injecting it directly into your bloodstream. Any impurities are gonna pass through your circulatory system until your body (hopefully) passes them. Why risk it? One trip may not be enough to get you hooked, but the wrong stuff in the wrong dosage can certainly kill you. Heroin from a pusher doesn't come with a dosage guide like a pharmaceutical does. I screwed around with a number of drugs when I was younger. I haven't touched ANYTHING other than alcohol in ages. I don't miss the drug scene at all. Sorry to sound like an old fart, but I enjoy living too much to die.
no one can tell anyone anything, all i can do is say what i experianced. herion isnt a recreational drug, usually by the time you get to it, its all about running from the pain of life. i can challenge anyone , anywhere, to go stand outside the local methedone clinic and see how many "together" people you see. we are hard wired to love the nod.and by love, i mean all consuming, food dont matter, kids dont matter , friends and family dont matter. some can use it a little, and not get hooked.most cant. but once again, you must walk that rode to dig it. do you really want to find out?
not every person who drinks alcohol becomes an alcoholic. A person could drink for 30 days in a row and never become an alcoholic. Alcoholics are generally genetically predisposed to becoming an alcoholic. A person may do heroin once or twice and not become addicted, but anyone that does heroin for 30 days in a row is going to become addicted. There aren't really any exceptions there. I don't think its a valid comparison.
They haven't ruined your life YET. So heroin users are likely to reach the finish line first.....yes maybe, either way you're still running the same marathon. I think it's a little elementary to claim that all heroin users use because they want to escape life. Why is heroin so scathed? Because less people do it. There is always justification for drug use in a large mass, mushrooms expands your mind maaaan, weed helps me sleep and appreciate food more maaaaan. Well it's argue able that heroin relaxes you, yes granted it is a hard drug. Moderation is key!... anything in excess is probably going to fuck you over. Especially a drug that is known for it's addictive capabilities. Can you out smart heroin? YES. YOU CAN. MIND POWER. There is a time and place for opiates, not everyone is hooked from their first snort smoke or IV. It is dangerous but so are alot of other more mainstream substances if abused.
I appreciate the sentiments wild flowers but I don't you truly grasp the notion of drug addiction. MIND POWER means little to nothing when you're addicted to a drug.
