What are your thoughts on why Jews dont accept Jesus now?

But regarding the prophesies concerning the upcoming Messiah...even Jesus told his disciples, more than once, that they didn't understand.
So, no doubt the Messiah that was being "looked for" and described in the OT was not the one that came, especially at the time. He didn't have the "usual" materialistic desires that drive (and accompany) a King....right?

I pray if I were I back then, I would have had the sense to hear and follow Him. Surely the ring of Truth and Peace would have called me.

 

I didn't mean that Catholics and Protestants have a different Isaiah 53.

I meant the specific person vs. group metaphor interpretations are similar. (Jews v Christians for Isaiah and Catholics and Protestants for Revelation).

 

he word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word "Mashiach", which means "Anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, I Kings 1:39, II Kings 9:3)

Since every King and High Priest was anointed with oil, each may be referred to as "an anointed one" (a Mashiach or a Messiah). For example: "God forbid that I [David] should stretch out my hand against the Lord's Messiah [Saul]..." (I Samuel 26:11. Cf. II Samuel 23:1, Isaiah 45:1, Psalms 20:6)

Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Isaiah 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Many of these prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).

Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)

Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah."

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

 

grinning, ok, I think I know...I haven't "studied" the bible, as such...although I did do well in Old Testament class required to get an AA depree (lol).
I guess the thing is, I just don't get why there is such a big huhaa about the difference between Catholics and Prostestants...but indeed there is a big ado about nothing, as far as I'm concerned. We both worship the same Lord God, right?
I know that Catholics are much more into ritual and (I think) the confession could be the public confession that is told us in the NT that is necessary for forgivness, the right thing to do, rather.
For a person to convert to Catholicism, I would certainly think they would have to be called. At any rate, I just find myself thinking that in most things both prostestants and catholics would be of the same kind of mind-set regarding God things.

 

Peaceful Libra, if I read all of that light blue writing, I think I'm gonna have a seizure - my eyes are hurting now.

 

Why dont you accept me as your lord and savior?

Its simply a matter of faith. Spiritual faith is not rational...
Rationalizing it only detracts from its spiritual significance..

The only way to have a completely rational perspective on religion is to have no spirituality at all... Then it is simply relegated to a form of social manipulation (who does that benefit anyone?)

 

quile, please don't take me wrong...but is there something wrong with you?

Are you even aware where you are posting?

 

Your choice of font color makes it rather difficult to read against the background color. What is wrong with just using black like most people here. it is easy on the eyes and shouldn't the content of your posts be what draws attention rather than the color of the text?

I know Shale uses a large blue font, but he's an attention whore. If you want to also be an attention whore, pick a different color

 

my bad its easy for me to read i didn't realize how light it was

 

Mucho better

 

I hope not.. and no offense taken..


Mind Trips > Philosophy and Religion > Christianity > Sanctuary > What are your thoughts on why Jews dont accept Jesus now?

My best thought on the matter (other than what I had posted earlier) is simply that Jesus was not accepted as their messiah but i couldn't begin to offer an argument any better than some of those i have read earlier in this thread..

Making the best perspective I could offer one about the significance of any individuals faith and spirituality...
What we are questioning is why don't Jews accept Jesus as their savior right?
Its the same as why you wouldn't accept anyone else to take the place of Jesus..
You have faith in Jesus as your savior, Jews do not... that's all.....

I have a huge respect for faith.. I get the significance of it.. But I cant pretend that I think any one belief system is right or wrong, so for me its as simple as accepting that they have accepted their faith and its the source of their spirituality..
The spirituality is the important bit right? let them have what gets them there. (as long as nobody's getting hurt anyway)

 

Gotcha' quile.

But really, I think they believe in Jesus; they just don't think he has come yet - unless, as I stated earlier (but it was pretty much ignored - lol) the Jewish person is of the Messianic Jews. And they do accept the same savior as we accept. Otherwise, they think He, the Messiah, has yet to come...but especially the orthodox Jews, they believe in the promise of the Messiah.

 

Mind you I am not a religious scholar and do not pretend to be one...
I am under the impression that the Jews are in fact waiting for a messiah..
I also believe that the resurrection story behind Jesus excludes him..
The resurrection in the Jewish faith was to be for all devout Jews not just the messiah..

Keep in mind I am neither Jewish or Christian and claim not to have any great insight or knowledge of either faith.. However I am certainly not closed minded to learning more and gaining greater knowledge..

 

The question was: why don't Jews accept Jesus NOW. The simplest answer is often the truest answer.

Because they've been taught since birth to not believe in Jesus.

 

No shit?

 

Fuck em.

 

ive been taught since birth to exterminate ze jews

 

This is Sanctuary. You need to leave. There's plenty of gutter forums for your kind.

 

No shit...
However your prior post seems far more productive...

 

Christian sanctuary... Not Jewish..
Though I dont support it, Christians do have a history there....