If you put yourself in a position where you knew you would certainly die, in an attempt to save someone else, is this suicide? Ummm better way to put it: you=safe (lets say you're an undercover agent or something). Person=unsafe in front of firing squad, in top level of castle, surrounded by electric fencing and dogs and bombs (ie no way of escaping). you= jump in front of firing squad in pathetic and doomed attempt to save person's life as squad begins to open fire. Ok, so it takes some stupidity. But don't pick at my perfect example Basically you're in perfect safety, and willingly put yourself in the position where you will certainly die. Would it be suicide?
I dunno...it wouldnt be the same thing as sitting somewhere and blowing your brains out, that's for sure...I guess if you really thought you had a chance at saving the other person's life then it might not be considered suicide. It would be like 2nd degree suicide, i guess. =)
I think it would depend on the situation, I think if the person was worth saving it would be somewhat of a justified suicide. Kind of like killing yourself because you have cancer, you would die soon anyway and dont want to take the pain of dieing due to the cancer.
yeh. The example wasnt great it was just like an excuse for someone to be put in a life or death situation, but yeh. It's hard, cause you know you'll die, but you don't necessarily want to die
It would be suicide, but you seem to be asking is if it would be morally wrong (like, to god or something). They say killing yourself out of depression is wrong, and though I'm undecided on that, I'm pretty sure dying to save someone else is considered good. Kind of what Jesus did, right? So if you swing down to try to save that guy and die in the attempt, you're an idiot, but you're a good idiot. The question is, does anyone attempt a rescue if they really thought that they'd surely die? I bet each time this has happened, the would-be-rescuer thought he might get out alive with the victim. Otherwise, the tried and true better-him-than-me philosophy takes over, even if we don't want to admit it to ourselves. If one person is destined to die, and we had to pick between him and ourselves, we'll usually pick him to die. (there's exceptions, like maybe the other guy has a family and you don't, or something like that, and the occasional instance of actual altruism and heroism).
think about this-jesus died on the cross. he knew he was going to die, but he was doing to wash away our sins, so its sort of the same situation. so did jesus commit suicide? in a way, it could be because you know that your going to die and you can stop it, but in another way it isnt because suicide means a person killing themself. if another person kills you, i think its murder, even if you think you know your going to die, you dont know for certain, and if you really dont want to die, than i guess it wouldnt be. whoo! i love thinkers! ill be thinking about this the whole day now!
NO! not moral! not g-dly! not good or bad! I'm just thinking about how we label stuff, and why..sorry. it's just everything I get into ends up a big moral debate.
It would be self-sacrifice. And without wishing to sound nuts, it's one of the noblest things a human being can do.
if you end your own life, it is suicide personally, i dont believe sacrificing yourself for somebody elses life is morally justifiable unless you believed that they would do more good to the world (/less bad) in their remaining life than you would. in terms of the jesus thing, ive debated this a fair bit in teh christian forum, but theyre all twats and never answered my question till like.. the 20th page, so i never go in there anymore the way i see it, jesus didnt die for us. he died, and dedicated his death to our sins. but i say jesus did not make the decision to 'suicide', as is common belief, since there was no way he could have got out of being killed unless he resisted physically or used some other thign that would lead him to be sinful. the choice he did make was to not sin, the result of that was his death, and just as anyone can dedicate something to something else, he dedicated his lives to the freeing of our souls, and so the choice to relieve our sins was a result of that. the more common belief seems to be that he chose to dedicate his life to our sins, and his death was a result of that, and the result of his death was a sin-free life (not to say that he wouldnt continue being sinless if he were to survive, no one can say he would or wouldnt) i guess its all philosophy, its all jsut interpretation
couldn't have said it better myself! thats kind of what i was trying to say-its not suicide unless you WANT to die.
