It feels like having a Gods cell number :)

Its been almost 3 years from this trip but the memories and the feelings are still same strenght, like it happened an hour ago.

I can still say, if you are to try DMT or benefit fully from its potential, combine it with strong dose of LSD, and take DMT when its LSD peak (1,5 - 2 hour mark). This is the proof of it, not just because of easier letting go, but because of remebering the whole trip.
I saw plenty of people having troubles remembering what they expirienced, this should help you.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=277912&f=117

 

I am trying that tomorrow.
It will be my second time trying acid, and 5th trying DMT.
I'm very excited, the beauty of a DMT trip is amazing, and to be able to remember it all sounds marvelous.

 

Great TR for one of my absolute favorite of all combinations. i actually find it hard to do - take that breakthrough dose of DMT when peaking on a strong LSD trip. Every single time i do i have a full blown ego death and mystical experience. It takes different forms but it is what it is pure and simple. My hand shakes as i raise that pipe to my lips . . . knowing that my next realization will be that i am no longer alive . . . but suspecting that truly wonderful things will then follow/be revealed . . .

 

Thats why I said its good to have somebody to help you, to push that pipe in to your mouth until you are just gone. If you can say "no" or shake your head that you don't want any more, you didn't have enough. You had enough when you just lay down, almost like colapsing, but much nicer hahaha.

I found it much harder trip when you don't have that 3rd token, you got stuck inbetween and then all those entities are a bit hectic, so much happening, while when you take enough you just teleport streight to your destination and expirience is so calm and beautiful, and profound, and... so undiscribable by words, has so much more meaning, you got the message streight out without distraction of many entities between dimensions (if you know what I am talking about). Actualy I belive that those elfish looking entities are there to guide lost soles on their journey, to help them be in that place between dimensions or realms or whatever you want to call it, but when you had enough DMT, you just skip that in between place, and since you are where you should be, there is not much guidance or interefering of the other in between dimension creatures.

Hahaha, I just read what I have written and realised that if somebody never tried DMT, they would think I am completely out of my mind hahaha

Maybe I am, but its soo beautiful, and who tried it, they have a pretty good clue what I am talking about.

Peace an Love!!

 

Oh Holy Fuck! This is NOT crazy. Not to a heavy DMT user. i never thought of it this way before and yet, . . . i have always felt that breakthroughs are a peak at (or practice for) death/afterlife. Many times i have been greeted by friendly entities who almost compete for a chance to "show and guide me around heaven,"

Actually, i realize that i could easily write about 25,000 words (i kid you not) on this topic. So, i'll just stfu and say, . . . i think you are on to something with this statement and the deepest journeys i have taken have had no entities or entities that were completely uninterested/uninvolved with my presence in their realms . . .


Regarding what you wrote earlier - i want to make sure i understand you and am not mis-interpreting. Yes, i believe it is essential to have a sitter if you are going to take a breakthrough dose of DMT while peaking on a heavy LSD trip, BUT i firmly and vehemently believe that that person should NOT offer, encourage or force additional consumption upon the journeyer. That's between the tripper, the molecule and sometimes the entities. Anything else seems immediately abusive to me (along the lines of "cognitive rape").

 

Please do write as much as you can. There is numer of benefits of you doing that. Firstly, there is not many people that can have a discussion like this and new comers can benefit a lot how to prepare themselfs for the journey. What is more important is, it will help YOU to describe to yourself what you expirienced on the journey and to easier interpret what message you brought back with you. I am telling you this from expirience, I did remembered all my trips, but they looked more like a sci fi move in my head, untill I started trying to intrpret them in words, and to be able to interpret something in to words, you recall the feelings you had through the trip, and then you start recognising those feelings in normal day to day life, and what they meen. You start beeing more aware of many things you thought it just happens through the trip, you don't have visuals, but the feelings are there. I learned more than 100 new feelings through many different trips, but I was not aware of them until I didn't try to put the trips in the words. And when you write trip report, don't make it just like "at 2 hours mark my visuals were beautiful", go deeper, go all the way to what you felt and what that feeling ment to you at that moment. Its not going to be easy, but when you put the right words on the paper it will be like "Wholy FUCK!!!" , and you will get better and better with finding proper words, realising that you also felt this and that. Feelings are the key to unlocking the sacred messages that we bring back with us.

This part I agree with you that nobody should be forced against your own will, but what I was trying to say is that I always want a breakthrough dose, and to get it for sure I need somebody to give me that pipe, it is just like a marker to me how much I took. You know how the trip starts fast, and sometimes you get blown away and carried away by its intensity and plenty of things happening, and if sitter doesn't bring that pipe, I would probably not go through, but if I am able to know that the pipe is there, I will definitely pull one more token. Once I was actualy blown away already and I just heard very quietly "you want more?", and I managed to pause the whole trip and come back out of it to have that one more puff, and than bang got exploded out of my body, out of anything into such calmness and happines. Its not up to sitter to force you, its just good enough if the pipe is close to your mouth and to ask "do you want more", as long as I can here that, I will go and suck some more. But thats me, I am not saying everybody should do it like this. What I am saying is you should try it at least once, and after that decide on your own.

Peace and love!!!

 

Thanks for this. Deep respect. i have done the writing in some other trip reports and my book (he he). Gads. But i like the way you put it better and i never made the connection before between going all the way (so to speak) and the lack of (or lack of interest) entities . . . .

And yeah, i must confess, i have been that sitter saying to the person obviously entering trance, "Would you like another hit? . . . . ." So, you are right and i know what you mean. But thanks for clarifying anyway.

 

Please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to sound like I know everything, I am just trying to help (not that you need help or something).

I read your trip reports, and I don't think you went deep enough, at least with the reports. You are more concentrating on events and time when you dosed and how much, and visuals as well. That all is just introduction, go deeper, go all the way to what you FELT, and what were the thoughts connected to that particular feeling. And do those trip reports here, on this site, because someone will ask you a question, and lead you to elaborate deeper the whole spectrum of feelings, giving them deeper meaning and understanding better what you brought back.

I'll give you the examle: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=288297

In this tread I just touched the feelings I was going through, but further questions from members lead me to elaborate more and to get better picture at the end, and to take the expirience in to normal day to day life, to become better person. If I didn't do that, I would still have a memory of that trip as a hectic mind blowing trip, but with no message taken and deeper understanding what was that trip showing me.
On the other hand, if I just wrote it in my book, there would be no additional questions and I would be again left with half the message.

Have a look at this post also:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=301550&f=117

Again, please do not get me wrong, but I can feel that there is sooo much that you can tell us all, and its not only us that need to "hear" that, more important its also you, specialy with others asking more questions.

Peace and Love!!

 

LOL! i do the best i can with the resources i have. As we all do. And hell yes i need help! As we all do. But, having said that, your feedback is appreciated and i will see if i can put a bit more about feeling/affect states in future TR's.

Some of the material you are trying to elicit from me is much to intimate to share on a public forum. This is DMT that i am obsessed with. No offense, and i am no K expert, but DMT experiences are quite different from Lucy and Ketamine . . .

Again, i refer to the "scientist-observer" phenomenon. And i confess to being left-brained, which i have taken heat from other psychonauts for. Yet they love my precise extractions and detailed directions . . . Oh well, can't satisfy everyone i suppose.

DMT is NOT empathogenic for me. It just is not. It does not cause me to feel that my heart is opening to love to all of humanity. Now, i can say that it DOES make me feel that i am getting in touch with a higher reality and nature that makes all of human concerns, history, religion, etc. almost meaningless. A type of ultimately entangled, synaesthetic, All-One. i get the very strong sense if i just knew a bit deeper math that this place would make more sense. This is an ecstatic place. This is a numinous place. This is a place i have no real vocabulary for. Again, i come to the term echoingly spiritual or mystical.

When DMT goes for my emotions, it attacks my core. It knows everything about me and permits NO lies, even lying to myself.

Meanwhile, i came into all of this a hard-core atheist. And though i now identify as a spiritual being, i do not believe in Gods or Godessess and have not endeavored to read up on the classics of religion. So, there is a certain paucity of vocabulary in this area for me . . . and i am doing nothing to rectify it. . . .

Let's see, if you want one with a bit more on feelings, one of the better ones (& it still won't meet your standards - my DMT trips just don't, LOL!) was this:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=408043&f=457

 

Thak you so much for putting effort in trying to express what I asked you for. One of the sentences you stated up explains why there is no parts that I was refering to: "Some of the material you are trying to elicit from me is much to intimate to share on a public forum."

As long as you are aware of those things its all cool. I was trying to lead to you something, to those personal feelings.

Sorry for me being silly, I should know that its left out on purpose, at the end, after 500 DMT trips there is no way you are not aware of it.

And by the way, that trip report is awesome, thats what I was refering to, to that inside mixture of thought process, feelings, strugle, happynes.....
Thats what usualy scares people and give them hard time, not hectic visuals, thats why I was trying to get you to share that with us, thats what newcomers need to be aware of.

And by the way, your precise trip reports and teks are awesome, somehow I got the feeling that you think I don't like them, I do, I just thought that with a little addition of feelings they would be perfect.

Anyway, you are such a cool person and you remind me a lot of my trip parter while I was living in Africa. She was also 45 but energetic more then a 16 year old kids.

Respect and Love!!

 

It's funny. i've said it before and many people, even DMT users find it difficult to believe/understand. But a 5 minute breakthrough can be more effective, more penetrating, more directly to the point than 6 months of 3x per week depth psychotherapy. It is absolutely the most healing substance (as well as the most spiritual, though i may be changing this to 5-meo-DMT soon) i have ever encountered. What a powerful and amazing blessing. What grace.