going over "the edge"

"If you think of it like a circle, at one side of the circle there is insane, then you go around to the other side and there is sane, and then you come back around again and there is unsane." Not sane, but not insane, beyond sanity, consciously insane, beyond logic, unsane. That is the mind where wonder can arise from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqsWnEvh9Gk"]YouTube - Hallucinogen - LSD

 

Trust in the central nervous system. It has been doing what it does for millions of years. You will come back, any suggestion otherwise if like suggesting not to have another beer incase you become permanently drunk... it is just absurd.

And yes, many others have had the same reservations and experiences Here are some words of advice from a modern day shakespeare:

 

But dude..why would you trip right after your girlfriend and you broke up? I know what it's like...it sounds like you weren't in for a good time from the start. Just saying man.

 

I just wanted to get away. I did. And it was the worst time of my life.

 

tripping is not like alcohol, it doesn't take you away. it brings you even more here.

 

Seems like a bad choice but I think having a ground shattering experience with a negative set and setting that is your own attitude, it might be a dark experience, but everything can be grasped to benefit yourself.

 

It tought me not to care about her anymore. She is gone and there is nothing i can do about it now.

I got a new woman and she is a lot better. Plus she only lets me do drugs if im with her haha. My last one wouldnt let me do them at all. So i had to deceive her.....lol

 

to be completely honest, sometimes i feel like i use psychedelics to "escape." i don't have any really serious problems, but i never really know if i'm totally happy with what i'm doing with my life. i'm in a very demanding grad school program, and i don't even know if i want the degree i'm working towards. i spend a lot of time avoiding that type of work, tripping or not, so i guess i'm used to it. one of these times i might get a kick in the ass when i just trip on the weekend out of the blue, but it hasn't really happened yet. maybe that's why i'm cautious of taking a huge dose?

 

^^^ Sounds like my deal, except im very excited about the classes im in and the degrees that will come in the next couple years. The only reason i never dive head first into a large dose is becasue im scared of the ass kicking that could follow...
but either way i can flow with it if it does come.. i dropped 5 hits at my friends cabin and no one else did any. that was interesting to say the least.
You must except what yolu'll have to face, which has basically been the main topic of this thread.
cheers

 

I think there are bad trips that don't lead to much in the way of insight, other than the old, "This time you went too far" - which may be true, but not worth the pain or whatever. Like, so lost in paranoid that everything went down the drain or was so well scattered in a vacant lot that nothing could be found the next day... the bummer that kept on giving.

 

Yes, there has been cases of too much LSD being taken and people's lifes changing for the worse since, but I think that can be helped by the subject. And yes, I've known that feeling too Pork. It is an escape, I think an escape into the foundation of reality, but we are so locked into a different idea of reality that things like schooling belong to, and sometimes the two realities just are too different to productively help one with the other. I think that is when you make choices to pursue one reality over the other. If anyone wants to add on to that, challenge, or offer alternative, I WOULD greatly appreciate it.

 

Bad is a second-grade word. Good is also a second-grade word

Difficult, trying, hellish, beneficial, blissful, mystical are all better words to describe trips. You won't get anywhere with the labels 'bad' and 'good' when discussing anything except to ignoramusville.

A difficult (bad) trip is a beneficial (good) trip only if one actually uses the insights gained from the trip in their everday lives.

A hellish, non-beneficial trip, when one only learns never to do a psychedelic again, could be said to be the true definition of a 'bad' trip.

Feels like crap + learned nothing = 'bad' trip

tripped + learned something = 'good' trip

In conclusion, its a 'bad' trip if you don't change for the better, regardless of the content of the trip (happy, sad, scary, depressing, unitive, etc.), after the dose wears off. It is a 'good' trip if you do change for the better, regardless of how much you enjoyed the trip.

Psychedelics are the only drugs I do to feel better after they wear off.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dLAv0NklTg"]YouTube - The Doors - Break on Through (to the other side)

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4o8TeqKhgY"]YouTube - Grandmaster Flash The Message HQ

 

Lakaluno is a complete moron who installs fear

dont listen to his propaganda

 

Meditation has always worked me through those moments, it usually ends up being a very ecstatic experience. I'd personally recommend just trying to remember that there really is nothing to worry about when you're peaking out. I bet in time you'll feel a trip just isn't really a trip without the so-called ego-death experience. I guess being emotionally stable may be a good pre- requesitite, but I've always held to the idea that a 'clean' psychedelic experience can be quite therapeutic and just overall relieving. Some may choose to disagree though I'd say if your heads on straight you'll be fine if you decide to let go and see where the trip can take you. Isn't that pretty? These kinds of experiences where you are taking enough to reach that point is probably where you want an ideal set and setting planned before hand. I enjoy collaborative art during this part of the trip, as well as some music. Have fun

 

ive never done acid but from what ive read it makes you see things you dont like about yourself, or atleast admit them. well what happens if a person freaks out and kills themselves from it while tripping if they crossed the line?

 

which has happened like all of once or twice in all the millions of people who have done acid and had a "bad trip". you won't cut your wrists on acid if you won't cut them sober man. it doesn't make you stupid. You would have to be the type of person who would kill themselves to not be themselves.

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I've seen people go through Hell and back under a psychedelic experience, and while they may have tried lashing out at people they never became suicidal. I think that's a personal thing that people need to work out before they trip. Are they a very depressed suicidal person and taking acid? I guess in theory you could say the probability would be higher for a negative experience, but it still could go either way. LSD again can be just as much therapeutic as it could probably be detrimental, it just depends on the person, how they approach it, mood, and more than likely their set and setting at the time.