Want to try something new but don't know what.

I've taken LSD and Shrooms back in the late 90's but now have no way of getting those so i want to try something new. I have narrowed it down to HB Woodrose or Salvia. From what I've read about Salvia it may be too messed up to take to crazy. but it also only lasts a few mins where tha LSA in the HB Woodrose might be more like LSD that im used to but I'll have to deal with it for hours. What do you guys think? Oh BTW I was thinking of trying Salvia 5x.

 

If you try Salvia, start at a 5x or 10x extract and work your way up if you like it. I'd order it online from a well-known site, as extract levels are inconsistent among different brands, so you never know what you're going to get.

Woodrose is going to be much like LSD, as the Lysergic Acid in it will bring on the same kind of trip. If I remember correctly, the side effects are somewhat unpleasant for Woodrose.

If I were you, I would get on Erowid and read a few experiences on each of the substances and see which sounds better to you.

 

Yeah I've been reading erowid for both. It's just that it seems like Salvia is really powerfull and different from LSA. I want something mild. I like the short duration of the Salvia so i'm leaning that way. Have you tried both?

 

I was reading another thread earlier, maybe even on the Hip Forums, that was comparing LSA to LSD, and saying LSA is mild and is not worth how much physical discomfort you go through. It was pretty unanimous.

 

Okay, yeah, here it is. It's one of the top threads right now, even.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=409717&f=117

I don't know much about LSA, though. Just putting this out there.

 

if you are looking for something mild, salvia is NOT it, at least when you break through. it is very intense.

 

ok. Then I might try HBW. It's only $5.99 for ten where im shopping. I don't need something very powerfull just something to lightly trip with.

 

BTW is there a legal product that is good that im not aware of?

 

From what I've read, a light trip but at first intense physical discomfort and nausea. Then again, it may depend on the seeds. And still again, mostly all of my reading has been on LSD and not LSA.

But I still don't think the nausea warning is something to pass off reading lightly.

 

San pedro and Peruvian torch cactus both contain mescaline and they make great ornamental cactus for your garden

 

OKay. The place i was going to has san pedro too. I was planning to only take 2 or 3 of the HBW seeds.

 

I always tend to think of mescaline as part of the big three psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline), but unless you get the cactus and are good with cooking, or know someone who makes it, it sounds like the easiest to pass off as a fake if you're looking for the already extracted form. Definitely something I want to take eventually, though.

 

San pedro is probably way better than hbw. Most people I've talked to don't like lsa, though I have no experience with it. Once you get past ingesting San pedro youre in for a beautiful experience and its mild in comparison to mushrooms and LSD but every bit as amazing.

 

When you do the seeds, do them sublingually (suck on them and don't swallow the seeds themselves.) I've read that people have tripped and not had any discomfort. I, too, would like to try them. Also, buy them organically if you aren't already... Iamshaman.com has them for very cheap and organic!

 

I was looking at Iamshaman but i don't need 50 seeds at arena ethnobotanical I can just buy ten. I'll think about the san pedro for later. From what ive read it takes a lot of time to make it and space and in my current situation I can do all of that. For the seeds I was going to scrape off the rough husks and then crush them with a set of vise grips. but I should suck on them and not eat the whole seed huh. ok. On that Iamshaman.com do you know if all strains work or just the expensive ones from hawaii?

 

thanks everybody for your input ill let you know what i decide and how it goes.

 

San pedro does not take alot of space, it does take some time to prepare but the quality of experience it provides is more than worth it. I've taken quite a few psychedelics and its its pretty high on the list of favorites (I like it better than shrooms) But I do realize the probably cheaper and instant gratification of hbw is appealing.

 

That and i dont know what the dose is on the Cacti. I's buy a 6 inch cutting and be left with how many doses? nIm watching a guy cook it on youtube not as bad as i thought. i might try it.

 

I recommend 12 inches for a good first dose. It will probably be subtle visually but it feels almost as good as ecstasy and its a very lucid, flowing mental state.

It also has other medicinal alkaloids in it so you feel cleansed when you come down and that usually persists through the following day.

 

cool. i'm gonna read up on it on erowid and ill give it a shot, I think im gonna try the HBW too. and first. thanks.