Dpt 10/15

-Three people
-A safe pad with maximum autonomy
-83.3333333333... mg per person.

The plan: Person A will snort his/her portion. Person B and I will watch over her/him. After person A's journey is over and she/he has collected his/her thoughts, he/she will watch over person B and I as we do our trial (if person A feels up to sitting).

Person A insists on doing it this way. I have no preference.


I have some questions...

-What should a sitter look for when watching over the trip?
-Would it be difficult to watch over two people on DPT?
-What supplies would you recommend be on hand?
-Does your heart beat at an incredible pace the entire time?
-If person A is not in great shape (6'2 220 lbs, sort of flabby{don't mean this as a slight], slightly chunky) is he/she in any danger?
-Would asthma be a concern? Even if it was never a concern on any other psychedelic?


I'll ask some more later if I can think of some. Do you gals/guys have any advice? Thanks in advance! I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Well as a sitter just make sure the person is feeling comfortable (which they won't be on the come-up really). If they *really* start freaking out make sure to keep them indoors.. having someone running around really scared on psychedelics outdoors can lead to bad situations.

I would say it wouldn't be too hard, unless again, they have some sort of severe reaction, and start trying to run around. At your dosage I don't think this is bound to happen.

Have a bucket, so if anyone gets nausea they can just purge straight into the bucket. Have something to drink nearby (I usually use coke, but anything strong enough to wash back the taste would work) because the drip is pretty nasty.

The heart rate is not affected very much. Someone from the forums (I think it may have been Mr. Writer) had his heart rate tested while on DPT and it was fine. I think the time distortion causes people to believe there's a problem with the heart beating.

Weight should not cause any problems, except person A may need a slightly higher dose to feel the same effects.

I don't think asthma would be a concern. Just make sure to have the asthma pump on hand were it that anything happens.

I wanted to add a few things. Don't have any benzos on hand. The come-up is ridiculously intense, and can cause a lot of people to get scared, take benzos etc. I believe that the benzo + DPT combo is what caused my friend to stop breathing as benzos in combination with certain strong stimulants can cause respiratory difficulty.

Other than that.. just enjoy it. Like I've said, the come-up is intense, but DPT blossoms into the most beautiful experience once you get over the initial anxiety caused by being torn from your body.

 

My experience is minimal, but kinda just the usual: Sitter should be sober, fully baseline to sit for such a powerful experience, just in case.

Have water, tissues, purge bucket, variety of music selections and blankets on hand.

When the tripper (inevitably) lies down, sitter should probably ensure they lay on their side to prevent possible aspiration of vomit while in hyperspace.

Have a GREAT time you guys. i cannot wait to read your report. My next dose will be in the 75 to 80 mg range!

i wouldn't worry too much about severe physical reactions like heart problems - that dose is 33.3 mgs over what i tried and i didn't notice my heart race at all (like i do with smoked DMT).

 

- have a purge bucket handy like cs mentioned and a comfortable spot for the ones tripping to lie down if need be
-It shouldnt be difficult to watch over 2 people.
- Supplies should be water (liquid), a blanket, and music if you wish
- heartbeat does increase, but not at an 'incredible pace'
- the hefty guy should be alright, there have been a few cases of people blacking out but that is few and far between usually with a higher injected dose.
-asthma should not be a concern if it hasn't been yet.

 

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Person a snorted about 25 minutes ago. Still pretty coherent. Can he/she blow his/her nose?

 

Could having a movie on be keeping A attached to reality? It's been around a- hour actually. Person a is still coherent as can be, but feels "off" and says things look weird. Ps, this is from a phone

 

i used only music, no movie.

Plan on snorting dose in 2 portions, one portion per nostril. Expect nostril(s) to be clogged for the rest of the day. Sorry that didn't get mentioned.

i snorted my second dose about 15-20 mins. after my first and got fairly profound effects. Total dose 50 mgs.

 

Did my portion 40 seconds ago

 

Happy trails!

 

sounds about right

while i think watching a movie is a bad way to meet dpt, it doesn't matter what you're watching or doing once the drum is pounding, you will be obliterated

 

Okay. We're all alive.
It was much more intense than person A made it seem. I cried. I wasn't the only one. It was a constant struggle... but a joyous one.

I could see three outlines of every object, things seemed to be covered with a rainbow colored, translucent net.

I saw epic colored tribal designs on the wall. When I closed my eyes, I felt like my face, my feelings and my emotions were continuosly collapsing on themselves.

I felt like my friends could see my emotions. I was trying to hide them (unexplainable in how i was doing this).But, I found it hard to totally detach from reality. I was trying to. I was being held by threads.I will be doing his again at a higher dose... probably rectally. What is the dosage for doing it rectally?


Theres more to this. I can explain later.

Overall thoughts: Dose higher, go with the flow, focus only where the substance takes you... not on communicating or any form of media.

 

I would agree that increasing dose, doing it alone, focusing on the trip rather than communicating the trip will all help you go deeper and unentangle from those reality anchors. Glad you were touched by the deep and were not frightened off. How humbling is this stuff . . . when's the last time you cried the way you did with this. Man I love reading first time DPT reports.

 

My face while reading this post = . I'm glad it ended up as a positive experience for you. The deep has been on my mind for awhile, I need to dive back in soon and make sure I actually snort the stuff properly haha. I did 2 25mg lines about 15 minutes apart, and I'm pretty sure I swallowed the first bump as I barely felt anything at all until the 2nd bump. I'm still considering rectal ROA as well, but for some reason I think I'd fuck that up when it came time to do the deed.

Rectal will bypass first-pass metabolism so it is a ROA option for the deep, but it's still not as effective as insufflation. That being said, most reports for rectal ROA have mentioned that their dosage was comparable to the same dose insufflated, so you don't need to increase dose dramatically.

A quick search gave me this TR, saying 75mg rectal was comparable to 50-70mg insufflated: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=26648

 

I don't think a trip has ever induced tears for me.

I actually have no idea where the tears were coming from. Maybe my subconscious was struck with guilt by the things it saw while I was being stripped of my sense of self.

The vibrations were unbelievable. The feeling reminded me of the feeling I get through my body when the dream I am having suddenly become lucid...only multiplied by about 163.

I felt like everything I could possibly be aware of, physical and meta-physical, was presented to me in every sense and even in ways I cannot fathom or express. Once it was presented to me, it collapsed/was broken down (for an extreme lack of any word that can describe this).

This almost happened all too fast. I HAVE TO do it again. I cannot wait for the next trial.

 

Thanks man. I had an epic, profound experience--and I analyzed it from the start and did not get all that I could out of it (just like the first time for basically every substance I've done). So, when you do dive back in, you're in for a true adventure and incomparable time.

Hmmm, I'll have to weigh the pros and cons. As long as I can have around the same duration with same effects with just around 20 mg more, I think I'll give rectal a shot. I've never tried any substance rectally, so that may take some research. If I find that the rectal route does not offer the same experience, I think I can snort it again. My nose already feels fine. It is barely congested.

I am thinking 150 mg rectally. Or, I may just go the nasal route again. After the come down, I had negative thoughts about snorting. But, I basically good to go now.


Thanks again for the advice everyone.:grouphug:

 

Rectal is a good route for many psychedelics. I have no experience with rectal dpt but for almost every drug I've used rectally it cuts down on nausea. I've heard insuffalation carries a fair amount of nausea with it and often puking, I've only used dpt via injection and I get practically no nausea at 75 mgs so far and I don't get any fear response either from any dose I've done with it. If you have a good amount use different roa's

 

:coffee: yes yes yes

 

this. Unless it is the sitter with the benzos. They at least should not be taken while the person is still tripping. And I would say a higher dose would probably be better.

e: ooop, a bit late lol. I'm glad you had a good trip. This substance is a verrry powerful teacher.

 

wow dude. just...wow. i'm bummed i never received my dpt.