Is ketamine considered a hard drug?

Datura maybe? Oh and fentyl (however it is spelled.....that much more potent opioid that some people lace heroin with).

 

wtf are u guys talking about.. lol

any drug you can die from, (Lethal Dose, OverDose) is always and has always been considered a "hard" drug..

any drug you cant die from, is considered a drug that doesnt have any real immediate dangers... just long term side effects.. soft/weak drug..

however it is all matter of opinion in the end.. some people, most people consider LSD to be hard.. as it is Mind Altering.. but really, there is no LD from LSD, just positions you can put yourself in which you may harm yourself or others because of its mind altering features

 

You can die from drinking too much water. Is water a hard drug?

And the LD50 for LSD is 12,000ug, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

DAMN you owned him big time lol..

 

i would say hard because how dangerous it is if you abuse it too much

 

In between average and hard?

 

Just for clarification K is a dissociative, not a psychedelic.

Really, I think it's a bit arbitrary to try and shoehorn drugs into two categories of "hard" or "soft." The drugs are too different, have different modes of actions, different risks involved.

 

Ket is a hard drug for the simple reason that if you use a lot of it, it's quite damaging to you. As for whether I think it's a good drug? Definitely. Just have to use it responsibly, which I think is something that most people don't do.

Ket can be used in two ways:
- Small-ish dose, you'll feel really quite drunk, a bit retarded, and really happy and high. This is great if you want to stretch a small amount of money over a long time, and good for parties/doing ket with friends.

- High doses. Now the only illegal drugs I have experienced are Marijuana and Ketamine, so I can't give you a comparison here, but 0.3g of Ketamine is truly the most intense thing I have ever experienced. I honestly believed I had been tripping for over 1000 years, checked the time on my phone and only 3 minutes had passed. I felt like I was flying through different dimensions, experiencing many different perceptions, learning new languages, dying and being born again. Was both the scariest and most fun thing I've ever done, and it's something I'll keep doing again, though not as regularly as most people do.

I don't like how some of you are comparing ketamine users to crack addicts lol. I know waaay too many ket users and although people'll be like "Ugh ><" when they don't have ket, I've never seen anyone care that much. In fact if anything I'd say I'd seen more people freaking out over weed than ket.

Ket is like marmite though, you either love it or hate it

-Matt

 

What about moderate doses? Haha
I think that's my favourite level with K, around 150-200mg (for me anyway).
At this dose things start getting really weird but you aren't fully dissociated.
It's a complete and utter head fuck and I usually get some visuals too.

 

special K is not really technically hard at low doses. Even though it is hard to overdose. The rush and sensation of slamming a couple of rails it can be a hard feeling.

yes, it is a complete dissociative mindfuck. Very lovely visuals some times. Depends on the isomer though imo.

 

Ketamine is the best for me, almost no risk of tolerance, almost no risk of overdose, almost no risk of addiction... but I guess i might be different from a person to another...

 

Yep.

 

Definitely heavy addictive properties. I don't think its terribly harsh on the body when used sparingly but when use habitually it can be very wearing on the body. Tolerance skyrockets for me when used often.

 

yeah ketamine tolerance is brutal

 

K doesn't compare to strong opiates where addiction is concerned.

 

the only thing k has done to me is give me a urinary tract infection and destroyed the inside of my mouth/throat/ and nose. but if you space it out about a week or so from each dose you shouldn't have the same problems as i had/have

 

you wouldn't steal your mums tv for k like opiates but K is so bad for the body. in the UK there are a lot of addicts cos it's cheap n common.

i know one girl who's had bladder surgery due to it, many others i know have had there personality killed from it.

the worst k story i know is from a guy from Bristol, K capital of the UK apparently. a lot of IV/IM K abuse. One guy was going through 200 needles a week from k.... think about how many doses per day that is. the doctor told him if he doesn't quit within a year he'll need both arms amputated.... dunno the rest of the story, might inquire.

But K is a wonder drug in medicine, perfectly safe.... IN MODERATION. this stuff has damaged my insides.

 

I've seen addicts with track marks all over their arm just like junkies. I've heard stories of the needle breaking off in their arm while they k hole and just leave it there. I knew this couple and the girl sold her boyfriends guitar and some other shit for k. K addicts can be every bit as bad as junkies. Though its probably easier to become a junkie off opiates.

 

I mixed some h with a shit ton of k earlier this summer, it was amazing. Later that month I tried it with some shit that was just like xanax, can't remember the name..but I mixed a few lines of that pill crushed up and did a shit ton of k. It slowed my heart beat so much and made it hard to breathe. So try not to mix it with downers if you can avoid it..

 

I take once week when I have some... I suppose it' a safe rythm.