I don't think I am voting anymore

This would imply that one's Constitutional rights are contingent upon his activities in the voting booth. Would you also suggest a sliding scale of Rights based on how many times a person has voted?

So, if you fail to exercise a right, you loose it?

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When folks parrot the bumpersticker "Don't vote? Don't bitch" it's the same thing as saying "you have no right to protest!"

Does this mean that minors and non citizens have no right to bitch (protest) either? I'm asking you bumpersicker folks.

 

I might be to only one that thinks you should have to pass an IQ test to vote..

question.

Do you know the difference between Iraq and Iran?

Answers:

A. The country of Iraq had taken American hostages in the 1970s..
B. The country of Iran had taken American hostages in the 1970s..
C. Both counties Attacked America on the 911..

If you choose C, youre an American..

 

That is bullshit. That is not what it means, and I think you know it.

In case you haven't figured it out, it means "You're a loser if you don't vote. Voting is the first and primary act of being involved in politics in a democracy."

 

That's what it means does it? Because one realizes that their vote doesn't account to anything more than a check on a slip of paper in a box that never gets read.

I'd be more inclined to say, "If you really think your vote counts, then you're a loser."

Except I try not to sound like a generalizing paleolithic propaganda pushing cave dweller.

 

But lunarverse, what you say is wrong. If it was true that your vote isn't counted, the American Civil Liberties Union, the League of Women Voters, and a number of other citizen groups would be all over it.

The only real problem I see related to what you say, is that the push for electronic voting machines is dangerous and should be stopped until they can be made un-hackable and totally reliable.

 

Do you remember the travesty surrounding the Bush/Gore election? That in itself was a pretty good indication that not only is the voting system severly flawed and fucked up, but also that it is crooked and in the end pointless. The leader will be chosen by the powers that be. The flock doesn't choose its shepard.

 

I wonder just how popular the phrase "every vote counts" is in Florida, where we know that every vote didn't count.

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OK, point taken. That was a travesty, yes, mostly caused by a corrupt right-wing Supreme Court.

But that has only happened once, and under circumstances that probably won't happen again if we have good voting machines, and there are a lot of good people working to ensure that will be the case.

So, I would still say that your vote does count (almost always). I think you are expressing a different kind of frustration with the political system, but are mis-characterizing it as "my vote doesn't count".

 

Protesting IS bitching! In case you haven't figured it out.

Don't like what either candidate stands for? Don't have to vote and cast support for adgendas you disagree with. But I encourage protesting corruption when it matters. Which is why I wrote in Christopher Walken in '08.

 

In some places, like Nevada, they allow you to vote for "None of the above". I like the idea that if enough people vote for that, they have to do a new election. Or something like that.

 

OK, I can work with that.

So, doesn't that give half of us the right to beat the crap out of the other half who voted for Bush in 2000?

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We need to vote for presidents who won't put right-wingers on the Supreme Court.

 

Normally I'd support the idea of an informed voter's quiz to tell whether or not the voter is eligible.

But I wouldn't trust the government to write up the quiz.

Besides, that's what the south did to keep freed slaves from voting after the Civil War. Making a difficult test for the uneducated to keep them out.

The sad thing is, that an informed vote is worth as much as an uninformed vote. It's one of the many flaws of democracy. *sigh* what can you do?

 

Can anyone on the "you must vote" side of the fence name one candidate that is not in debt to a corporation or special interest group?

If the answer is no then do you feel like the goverment, and the people we elect to run it speak for/represent you?

 

you got it dude.

 

sometimes the special interest group is you

hardly ever, though . . .

 

You must be one of those Fascists I keep hearing about who wants to destroy America.

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The dirty tricks that lawyers like to pull with recounts only work in close elections.

That's a fun fantasy to start my day.

 

I don't think things woulda been much better under a Gore presidency. He was part of the clinton administration and they had a very agressive and beligerant foreign policy in the middle east and the Balkans. That and he picked Joe "take over the Internet" Lieberman as his VP, who also campaigned with McCain and openly admits to seeing eye-to-eye with Bush's foreign policy and advocates destroying civil liberties.