Seeking Advice - How to avoid Pharma Misfires

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Spicey Cat, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Hello,

    i think it's time to face my fears. It's been close to a year. i think i'm going to take pharmahuasca again. 200 mgs Tetra hydro harmine & 70 mgs freebase DMT.

    Now, one of the things that got me into the trouble that made me OD and have to stop (4.5 grams ground Syrian Rue & 135 mgs freebase DMT = one of the toughest hours of my life! followed by a really rough day) was a series of ugly misfires. i didn't dose correctly in terms of strength or timing or format or all of the above and wound up not getting off, slightly buzzed, underdosed, etc. . . .

    Gel caps just seem to lead to misfires. Though i've had a number of successes with just taking the bitter substances straight or in juice, i have also misfired this way too. Drat!

    So, my tentative plan is to heavily fast the day before. Then the day of the trip to parachute (i've never parachuted pharma ingredients b/f and think it's a good idea.) the THH then wait maybe 30 minutes and parachute the DMT.

    Seeking feedback and thoughts, especially from those with successful pharma experiences.
     
  2. guerillabedlam

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    I'm thinking the personal pharmahuasca experience is rather slim here so I will just add what I know via pretty thorough reading (keep in mind this is not from personal experience)

    From what I've gathered you take the maoi first and the wait time before the dmt should be taken is roughly 45 minutes. Most from what I have read, feel the maoi (in the case of Syrian rue) and then take the dmt. Seems if you take it too soon the maoi will not be properly working and if you wait too long you will get a very short trip.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    Double post
     
  4. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    What are you looking for or hoping to find Spicey?
     
  5. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    i do not want another misfire. My best experience in the past was 3.0 grams ground Syrian Rue taken 1 gram every 10 minutes then after another 10 (40 mins total) took 70 mgs freebase DMT. The rue was in gelcaps and the DMT was in OJ.

    i would like to view the huasca realms with more than just 5 minutes. i would like to face my fears head on. The last very, very tough trip had breakthrough qualities with insectoid themes. i am now ready to submit to the insectoids or whatever else comes, but not at those levels. i am not willing to dose huasca for breakthrough levels/qualities, thus the 70 mg idea . . . i have done this before and had some very amazing things happen - including what can only be referred to as astral projection and an experiment resulting from it (Ah, but that is another story . . . )

    Lately i have felt a kind of Winter/Fall funk approaching. Not Seasonal Affective Disorder, more just a realization that yet another Summer is gone and that all that Spring is is a lie anyway as we must all face that ultimate Winter all too soon. i guess the more i get into it, the more i want to go to "DMT Church" and stay for an hour or two . . .

    Hope this makes sense . . .
     
  6. phlyfinch

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    anyone know if it's unsafe to take an MAOI such as syrian rue while medicated on adderall??
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    Do you have any set day/time for your pharmahuasca trip spicey? I am contemplating one here in the next couple of weeks.
     
  8. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    replied too you in PM Spicey
     
  9. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Well, it definately will not be until Halloween or after. Probably sometime in mid-November. Time of day would probably be mid to late morning for a start . . .
     
  10. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    I've been in quite a big funk lately. always get this way in fall/winter . . . its tough
     
  11. Xora

    Xora Member

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    My experience is second hand, merely watching, and asking quesitons of a few close friends who have done it. I personally am not ready, these 5- 15 minutes viewings still leave me with more than enough to chew on. However, they have found the most success with fasting the day before, parachuting half the syrian rue, waiting 15 - 20(depending on metabolism) then parachuting the other half, waiting 15 - 20 then parachuting the freebase deemsters.
     

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