Coral, Other Species Dodge Oil Spill

an article with good news for a change!

Researchers feel that coral, starfish and other creatures remain mostly unaffected by the Gulf Oil Spill in an initial survey of the gulf floor.

 

nice going coral!

 

If it's the same survey group: "Scientists currently are in the early stages of studying "So far, it appears the area dodged a bullet, but more research is needed."

I think Samson might have jumped the gun slightly.

 

im sorry, i just get over seeing the same crappy bad news here and EVERYWHERE. I was trying to prove that it is possible to not be pessimistic all the time. I thought this was HIP forums and I find it very unhip to never get any good news or nice discussions. God forbid that anyone should post something FACTUAL that is GOOD news!!!






Get over it, its not all gloom and doom out there and even if its just a 20 mile square it is just north of the site of the spill so where else would they start such a survey? Sheesh I sure dont see any of you posting anything positive in the news forum, just complaints and pointing out problems others have - and now even taking issue with the rare good news, there is no pleasing some people!

 

I agree that any area that at this point seems to be either minimally damaged or is recovering from this disaster is cause for being pleased and hopeful that this is an indicator that possibly we are going to get off a little lighter than we all fear. At the very least perhaps it will assist to have balance restored in areas that have not fared so well.

While this is not a disaster that we can ignore, it is done. Now it is cleaning it up and hopefully not having it repeated. Any good news is welcome.

 

ty heat, that is exactly how i feel... being where I am I hear plenty that is wrong with it, and ANY good news is a breath of fresh air!

 

from oceana.org "- Twelve years after the spill, oil could still be found on half of the 91 randomly selected beaches surveyed." at the Exxon Valdez location... so there is gonna be oil there for a long time. That being said, if you have ever been to Biloxi beach you know that there was oil there already, and they have been trucking sand in to create that beach since the 1950s at least because they dont really have one to start with.

 

I hear you. Until it is shown to be otherwise I am going to remain optimistic that perhaps for all of our messing with mother nature and the balance that there will be many more areas that are on the mend or relatively unharmed. Some will not be as is to be expected but any that are is really a good thing.

Then they may also hold an answer for repairing the areas that are not. Perhaps there is also a reason they are still healthy and it can be adapted to assist the ones that are not. Possibly the science of it all can then be used to boost the recovery of other areas.

Not my expertise by far but I have to also hold faith in those that it is.

 

That they hired Sponge Bob is even better news!!

You just cheered me up even more!

 

I'm sorry too. I try to be optimistic. I am optimistic.
I should have said this was good news.
I guess you kinda have to remember some people don't like good news, or certain types of news. This being one of those occasions.
A multinational did something bad and they need to pay for ever, obviously. :2thumbsup:...a bit like the bankers etc.

I've tried to post good news. I've tried to post good news about Iraq/Afghanistan...or just good news in general. It was an epic fail.

 

Come on. we all know that people who try to make government look good are just supporting Obama's fascist right wing liberal socialist agenda.

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It was meant to be a flippant smart-ass statement, but I can work with it.

You mean, like, the big government conspiracy.

The only people I see controlling government is big business, nothing fascist about it, it's just business.

I gradeated, don't have homework any more.

And you saw these documents on Wiki-leaks????

He's trying, but he's drowning in Tea.

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i encourage a million man march to storm the white house and put that niglet out on his ass..
they had no direction then, and have no direction now..

 

Those apposed to Obama are always going to twist his words and his "supporters" words, and spin it which ever way they like (the default position being towards the negative).
The Obama "supporters" had their opportunity to do the same when Bush was in gov'.
The people, on both sides, that do that are as bad as each other.
I presume you have been around the block enough times to know that.

What I am talking about, in this instance, is even handedness regardless of who it is Obama or Bush, Democrats or Republicans.
There are people who think neither one could or can do anything correct, but clearly that isn't fair, is it?

If Obama, for instance, has pledged "No lobbyists", but former lobbyists are still working there way into his admin', is that a going back on what he promised?
Are ex-lobbyists still lobbying? (perhaps a question for Chris)
Is it fair to think if you have "lobbyist" on your CV it means you can't be part of Obama's admin'?
I don't know enough detail about this, so won't claim to know if he lied (or obfuscated) or is keeping his promise as best he can...
I do think some people think: "once a lobbyist, always a lobbyist", which really isn't fair, imho.
I do think some people find a chink in the armour, stick a knife in and twist.

All I was asking for is even-handedness and acknowledge the good as well as condemn the bad...and, to be honest, cut people and issues some slack. :2thumbsup:

I should add, I'm not perfect and probably am guilty myself, but I do try to be fair. Honest.

 

The vitriol against Bush was nothing like the hate being promoted against Obama. I remember the promises made by Bush to his base, "no rights for queers," and "prayer in schools" so the Christian community can once again indoctrinate our children. He never tried to fulfill these promises and they were not possible from the start. I thinks it's called pandering.

On the other hand, Obama has tried to fulfill his promises, but has been met by a pack of rabid dogs salivating rancid tea, all trained by corporate interests. Candidate Obama could have had no idea of the extent corporate interests would fight to tank his agenda, or the stupidity of the TeaBaggers who fight for the rights of the wealthy to control this nation.

American politics is actually pretty simple. The rich support the Republican party because it promotes an agenda that favors the wealthy at the expense of the poor and middle class. The poor support the Democratic party because it promotes an agenda that tries to level the playing field. And, the middle class is just that, sitting in the middle blindly following the party that promises them the most money or the most protection from this year's hyped up imaginary dangers.

Obama's campaign was extraordinary because it inspired people to look beyond the rhetoric and see a kinder more compassionate nation. The problem is that kindness and compassion are not profitable for the wealthy, who have refined the process of promoting fear and hatred.

Either I express allegory poorly, or you fail to see it. The term "it's just business" is used to justify all sorts of shit. It's used in the movies when the "hit man" is about to kill his "target." Basically, it means. nothing personal, just a business decision. Here I think it expresses the impersonal nature of big business that couldn't care less who controls what form of government as long as they can make boat loads of profits.

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You are joking, right?
You find one balanced article/report/opinion about Bush and I'll find ten to the contrary.
One could argue Bush was the worst president in the last 100 years, but your point was that Obama is having a rougher time than Bush...I do not think this is true.
I guess, to be fair, Bush had 5 times more time in office than Obama, and Obamas back-lash is coming (or has come).

Pardon?
Do you mean Bush was apposed to Gay marriage and wasn't apposed to faith being taught in schools?
If you put things in quotes it generally means that is what has been said.
I think you are grossly exaggerating the position he held.
But, please, do point to ACTUAL quotes where he said such things (Gay instead of Queer if that helps).
Remembering Gay marriage is not the only Gay rights issue.

I do understand what you mean by pandering, though.
I guess an e.g is Obama stating he would "Bring the troops home".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p12cAclNCRU"]YouTube - Obama promises to bring the troops home from Afghanistan.

Now, I know he meant as soon as possible and would simply be following the Bush exit strategy, but he owned that strategy as his own and pandered to the crowd by talking as if it would be immediate.

That's probably a huge generalisation to make arguments simpler, but I guess there is a kernel of truth to that.
Especially in regards to the "middle-class".
But too many Americans see themselves a "middle-class", imho.
Most things disproportionately affect the poor and the "middle-class"...that's true regardless.
Please do tell me how Obama has altered that paradigm.
I know what you will say: "Obama could have had no idea of the extent corporate interests would fight to tank his agenda, or the stupidity of the TeaBaggers who fight for the rights of the wealthy to control this nation."
Ho hum.

No offense, but did you understand what I was talking about?
Do you not see that you are falling into the precise mind-set I was talking about.
It's not that I mind per se, it just gets too much sometimes.
I guess politics discussions work best when there is a "us and them" mentality, and there ain't nothing I can do about that...and to be honest, on occasion I kinda like it...It gets things a little fiery.

I think we have all gone wildly off topic...