If I was going to do something like meph, I would just do blow, much more knowledge about blow, from what I have heard, its about equally addictive, and feels much better. But I wouldn't really want to do blow either, not unless I made a trip to Columbia or Peru or somewhere that most of the time the purity is in the 95%+ and is cheap as dirt. So basically, nothing compares to MDMA (I enjoy it more with 10mgs of d-amphetamines, I recommend others try this as well) Also, somewhat on topic, I have no experience in redosing MDMA (never done it, always resisted the urge). Unfortunately, I can no longer get pure MDMA (that I actually know is 100% pure, the guy I knew wanted to get out of the business for a while, but he said he will come back in like 5-6 more months) so during this time I've decided to just drop down to some high quality pills that I find (I've had great luck, mostly pure, high mdma). But my man just got some really cheap (2 cost less than 1 of his normal high doses do, this is why he took up this opportunity), moderate dose MDMA tabs (he figures the dose is somewhere between 80-90mgs) he says all his other people reported a incredibly hard (and of course short[3-5 hrs], as with all pure mdma) roll from taking double dropping, but my friend and I would be more interested in a longer, less strong roll. I was thinking to sustain a good feeling for a longer period of time maybe eat 1 and a half then like 2 hours later or so eat another 1 and a half, does this sound like it would be good? Or does anybody with more experience with MDMA know of a better way to keep your nice mild roll going good for a longer period of time. Also, do you people who take 200mgs + do it quite often because I've been rolling somewhat regularly (once every two or so months) for the past year and a half and I have always been satisfied with a dose around 100mgs more or less, 150 mgs is in the near too intense range for me, or is it just that I love the clearheaded pure feeling that lets function normally too much and the higher doses just arn't my thing. @guerillabedlam I wouldn't consider myself a serious hallucinogen user, but I do enjoy tripping. I just like to feel like I have gained something from my drug use. I feel this way very much so with MDMA, but I can see how they would say that, it does feel a lot like a pleasure drug, but my favorite experiences with MDMA is just with talking to people, no music, no lightshows, no nothing, just talking and feeling good. It has brought me so much closer to many of my already really good friends, and that take from it is just a perfect experience in its own. It definitely isn't the same take I would get from a stronger psychedelic, but it has it's place in my life for sure.
Ive been rolling for 6 years, not that frequently (although I think I did get 7 rolls in a 1 month span once unk but 6 years with many other drugs in between. Yah taking 1 1/2 then another 1 1/2 will extend the roll but will make it milder. I actually usually have a worse comedown when taking it in that manner though. I always just double dose initially.
To be honest, from pure MDMA + the d-amphetamines my comedown never is more than a little retarded in the morning after and lethargy all day. Most of my friends get it about the same, or hardly at all. If we could add a few more hours to our conversations, I am sure that we would all be okay with a worse comedown. We normally just walk around town/parks just talking endlessly, connecting (in a way no other drug I have tried can replicate, which is why I enjoy MDMA) enjoying the MDMA for 4 hours or so, then keep walking and talking and thanking each other for sharing the experience while still enjoying the effects of the d-amphetamines for another 2 hours, then crash. But If we could turn that 4 hours into 7-8 hours, I would totally be willing to deal with that comedown. Also I did a little more thinking about what you (guerillabedlam) said about serious hallucinogen users saying the same thing about MDMA having no value, and I think it might just be because they don't do it the way I do. I have tried higher doses (150-160mg) and sure I felt much better than I did with ~100mgs, but the next day, and even after the effects wore off, I didn't really feel like the experience meant anything at all, just felt good, and that's it, felt like shit the next day, that's it. Where as when I dose ~100mgs I can talk much more, all emotional/social barriers are down, deep conversations occur, and the next day, and from that point on, I feel genuinely closer to the partner that I shared the experience with. Even though during the experience I don't feel quite as good, I enjoy the experience much more thoroughly, and take value from the experience. (sorry if this sounds like rambling, you all know how hard it is to put a really meaningful drug experience to words...)
I agree op, its my favorite drug. Its not as mindblowing as hallucinogens like LSD and mushrooms but every bit as moving. Also while the comedown and hangover of MDMA definitely can suck at times a difficult experience with LSD or mushrooms often leaves me with a persistent disillusioned feeling well after the trip about alot of things and I've yet to really feel the same thing from MDMA, although it can definitely effect emotions quite dramtically.
I understand connecting with friends on MDMA but i've heard a lot of people say dumb things they don't mean when they sober up.
@p0ly, if this is what you mean, during the experience, I usually do say 1-2 things that I don't mean to say or I say and I know I shouldn't have, for example one time I basically said "it would suck if your girlfriend died right now", which sounds totally fucked up, but I meant it like "Man, it would really be sad if ____ died right now, it would totally kill this whole experience", the face on him when I said this had to have been the saddest look I have ever seen on anybody, luckily after I explained to him how I meant for it to come out, and he texted her to reassure himself that she was indeed still alive, everything went back to normal and we continued talking and feeling great. If this isn't what you meant, then I have no idea what you are talking about. @guerillabedlam Also, In your experience, how much milder is the second dose of MDMA than the first? I would imagine their is a loss of potency, how severe is this loss? Slightly noticeable? And would you recommend redosing the d-amphetamines as well (and seeing how you said you agree with my about MDMA having a value as a drug to take something from, I would recommend you try adding 10 mg of d-amphetamines as well, it it's the perfect amount of stimulation, as long as you know that your MDMA doesn't already have any speed in it. Also (again lol), I have yet to try adding K to my mix, as I haven't had access to pure K yet, though this winter a friend from Mexico promised to bring some up, so if that works out, might try it in January or February. Just a side note, I'm a purity freak, I won't touch a substance unless I know it's of high quality, and as close to pure as possible, which is why there are many drugs which I would like to do, but haven't, we all know how easy it is to get most anything, even "pure" MDMA, but unless I REALLY REALLY know it's pure, I won't touch it. Just my thang...
I've seen people who speak like loved up best friends but they don't know each other and when sober they have nothing in common and not even that comfortable together.
What are you taking the d-amphetamine from? I'm assuming some prescription drug. Caffeiene adds the perfect amount of stimulation to the mdma experience to me so I'm well aware of boosting it and don't really have a desire to add anything else on the stim front. I have definitely had tweaky ecstasy rolls which I'm not exactly fond of usually because of the after effects. I certainly would be willing to attempt your combo but I'm not gonna jump through loops and hurdles to obtain adderall, vyvanse or dexedrine.
O I see what you mean, I really only roll with close friends and only one friend at a time. It like a special event that I share with one person every once and a while you know? Sit around, chill, and then just walk with no real place we want to be, other than right next to each other, talking. I think people should try this too when they first start taking MDMA to get closer to people, when your hanging out/talking with whoever, write down things that come to your mind that you really want to talk with them about, but you think it'd be a weird conversation, but regardless you still really want to talk with them about it. And then safe the notes on your phone or something and then when you feel like it could fit into the roll, talk with them about it, it works perfectly, (though I wouldn't recommend doing this if it's like you have interest in a relationship with that person and are too scared to talk with them because either it could kill your guy's roll, or you end up hooking up, but when they sober up they realize they don't feel the same way about you and it kinda fucks up the friendship) eventually, you get close enough to the person that you are totally comfortable with asking/talking about anything with the person with or without the MDMA. Even with close friends from childhood, I still was sometimes wary about having certain conversations with them until I tried this out, and it worked surprisingly well.
Yes prescription drugs, don't go adderall, it has Amphetamine race, and just try and go for 10 mg NOT XR!! (I repeat, not XR!!!) d-amphetamine. I personally get mine in 5 mg pills, so I don't know if that helps but if you have any friends within ANY college community, obtaining these won't be a difficult task at all. And I absolutely hate feeling twaked out. Amphetamine Race is too tweaky for me. So I know what your talking about, I do enjoy the caffeine MDMA combo, but the d-amphetamine+MDMA combo is my love, not overly stimulating, no tweaky feelings, just pure feeling, blissful, perfect euphoria. I think the main reason I hate feeling tweaked is my first ever true drug experience (way back in 7th grade) consisted of 5 30mg XR Adderall... Way uncool man. WAAAAY FUCKING UNCOOL!
Man I hear a lot of mixed opinions of 2c-b, some people say it's worth the search for it, but most people say it is way oversold. If it was easier (and by easier I mean cheaper) to obtain, I'm sure most of those people would have loved it but knowing that you spent like $30-40 on 1 dose I think turns a lot of people away from it, I personally haven't tried it for this reason.
Well I think its slightly overhyped in the U.S. Because its schedule 1. When it fully shows up its really quality, minimal body load, euphoric, solid visuals/empathy but its a doctor Jekyll and mr. Hide drug. other times I've done it there is little in the way of visuals and nothing particularly captivating mentally/emotionally.
Then you sir, have better sources then anybody I know, I haven't really look for other sources, but the only source for it that I know is the well known Canadian vendor and I refuse to pay such prices for any drug, regardless of how wonderful the experience may be. Also, I meant to ask, would a low/mild dose of 2c-I + MDMA be good for talking? Experience reports of MDMA and 2c-I sound like they are incredibly enjoyable. Anybody tried it?
I have not tried that one, that is definitely one that I am hoping to get around to in the future though, If MDMA can suppress 2ci's body load and make it slightly more positive that would be a beautiful combo I think.
2c-b shouldnt be any more expensive per dose than other similiar strength 2cs such as -I and -e. Depending on how much is purchased one shouldn't expect to pay more than 5 to 10 dollars per dose (assumind one doses in the 20 to 40mg range). Even of your buying in small quantites anymore than $20 per dose is robbery imo.