hello everyone! first time on this forums and this is my first thread! This thread relates to taking shrooms or acid for my first time. Now basically, i just want to introduce myself, because i personally believe that the type of person you are can effect what you take, if thats cool to say? Ive always thought about taking LSD more then shrooms, due to the whole enlightening sort of thing. Few years ago i lacked self-esteem, low in confidence, people didnt appreciate me for who i was that sort of jazz. (pretty much sound like a loner) Up to this point i am a different person for the better, ive had my fair share of Mandy which has helped find myself alot, and i mean ALOT. life took a massive turn around basically. Ive always been one to try Acid, not because i just want to to trip utter balls, because i find myself as being a person who wants to learn more so i can better myself but yet also better or help other people from my experiences. (its what i do even now) to be fair thats the type of person i am, i love talking to people, teaching them things, despite the fact im 19, i love noticing the little things and how they play such a massive roll, aswell as understanding things which relate to other people aswell as yourself. but anyway dont want to drift off. Basically ive been thinking about trying acid for a good 4 months, ive spent along time reading up, pretty much everything about it. Spent hours on end reading and listening to other peoples experiences, so i can broaden my knowledge of what to expect when i do come to do it. But what worries me the most is that i do get a little paranoid when it comes to smoking the herb, i dont often its just normally every now and then. (not such a big thing) And from what i know i may be wrong, is that acid is like walking down hall of mirrors in your mind, and if you think about something it can easily reflect itself as you go deeper, from what ive been told. My biggest fear is that i dont want to go deep into something which makes me who i am, i love my music, i love making music electronically, and confidence wise i know that i do have the potential to make something out of myself from what i love. (not being smug) But also i am happy for who ive become, and my friends are happy for who ive become, and i dont want to lose touch of who i am, but i want to gain a better understanding of how things in life work so i can teach others aswell as myself. Just want to take the one step closer to becoming a better person so the rest of the world can see and learn. But my biggest worry is the bad trip, bet you lot have heard it all before haha. most people say that shrooms is a great way to get an idea of what acid is like, but i can never get the thought of what if this happens, or what if i think this out of my head, and its major turn of for me trying it. Ive considered "candy flipping" but i dont know, i feel like i want to try it in my most sober state so i can truly understand and experiance the LSD trip in a clearer manner. On the lighter note i feel like i want to try shrooms first so i can get a good understanding of what its like, but yet still the bad trip thing runs around in my head. I feel that if i have a bad trip on shrooms that im bound to have a bad trip on acid. i know its all a trip and technically its not real, but its crazy how real our mind can make things out to be. But yeah, from what ive explained, any feedback would be great, i mean im not mentally unstable, well i hope it doesnt sound like i am....lol Cheers for reading! Alex
Marijuana is much better at generating paranoia/anxiety than mushrooms or LSD imo. I very often get anxious on pot and yet 99% of my mushroom and acid trips have been nothing but euphoria and unimaginable pleasure and wonders. Not only do mush and lucy generate less bad feelings, they generate way, way more euphoria and joy than pot. Like night and day. Like you literally overdose on happy. There is a confusion out there between a difficult trip and a bad trip. A difficult trip can happen if you take a psychedelic when your set or setting isn't optimal for tripping. For example, if you just lost your parents yesterday, and are now at a big party with lots of drunk people and eat a whole bunch of mushrooms, you are not going to have a good time. Often difficult trips arise when we don't respect the substance. You should have no major psychological stress/trauma going on. You should do it in a safe environment, either alone, or with someone more experienced than you in these things or taking them with you. A real good friend. A bad trip is just a difficult trip + freaking out over the difficult trip. You can have a difficult trip and still come out of it saying "Wow, I'm glad I had this trip", since you learn a lot. To freak out though and not learn anything, that is the bad trip. Those are pretty rare, and to be honest, would be your fault lol. The point is it's not like flipping a coin, whether or not you'll have a bad trip, you can really put yourself in a position to have a fantastic time by making sure set and setting are good, and that your attitude and expectations and anxieties over the psychedelic experience are healthy. You say you've done a lot of research, that's good, that's a good head start then. You kind of know the import of what you're getting into. You should know that it's almost universally agreed upon that mushrooms are much, much more intense than acid, and that in fact one should take acid to prepare one for mushrooms, if anything lol. But really these two are apples and oranges. Comparing acid to mushrooms is like comparing alcohol to weed. Sure, they both get you high in some sense, but can you really draw serious similarities past that? Not really, they are unique chemicals. Acid and mushrooms are very very different. Having a bad trip on one thing does not mean you'll have it on the other. It doesn't even mean you'll have it on the same thing if you take it next week. It's all about the moment, here, now, are you ready to trip. I'm not sure what you mean by "the trip is not technically real", I assume you are referring to the "hallucinations" you've heard of, which don't really exist the way you've heard they do. The trip is real. As real as your dreams, as real as your waking life. In fact, one repeatable, universal attribute of a good psychedelic trip is how shockingly real it is, realer than real life, that is part of the wonder. It is real in every sense man. All in all you sound like you have the typical misconceptions that people have when they are approaching these things; I know I sure had them. Just approach it with a brave, honest, open, loving mind, and you will be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams. And don't overthink it, nothing can prepare you for the real deal, so there's no sense in sweating buckets over something you can't understand until you try.
I would try acid first. I find it to be a clearer trip, and many people I've spoken to feel the same way. I imagine a mushroom trip as like a 12 hour acid trip, compressed into 6 hours. Also, the dosage of mushrooms can be a little unpredictable. Sometimes an eighth of mushrooms can be way too intense or not enough. A tab of acid is almost always strong enough for an awesome first time trip.
I pretty much agree with mr. writer...beginners should start with lsd at 1 or 2 doses to get an amazing taste for what the psychedelic experience is like.IMO mushrooms are closer to DMT then lsd. i mean 2.5 grams (a beginners dose) probably wont melt your face, but i dare some one to eat 5+ grams and not have an experience on par with dmt. also mushrooms have a greater chance of causing bad trip potentiaters like nausea, uncomfterable pressure feelings, anxiety, negative thought loops, ego death, etc, etc. All that being said I still by far prefer mushrooms, their negatives are an essential part of the trip but if one is not prepared one can find the intensity very uncomfterable. on the other hand ive never had a negative moment on lsd, even on 5 doses.
