2ce & 2ci vs. 2c-c

well i was facing the same decision, and went with 2ce.
i get what people are saying about the dark aspect of it, but it's not that dominant. i've had some negative thought loops on 2ce at ~20 mg combined with a lot of weed, and at ~12 mg too. but it's a great trip. i've always been able to work through the "bad" parts.

and part of the darkness is what's cool about IT.
you feel a little like an evil genius or something. sneaky..
if you are eventually gonna have both, you should try 2cc first. that way you won't be disappointed with -c, since it's not as deep as -e
i had -e first, then -b, which seemed like child's play in comparison

 

I agree with this post.

 

i'd still try 2ci or 2cc (or -d or -p?), i just wouldn't expect them (except 2cp) to blow me away more than 2ce

 

Fuck it, I went with 2c-c. I'll report on how it goes!

 

sweet. i'll experience it vicariously

 

Heh, I was having the same problem, I just decided to get all three. Has anyone tried snorting 2c-c? Any ideas what a heavy dose would be for that? I was thinking about half of what I was going to try orally, so about 30-40mg up insuf'd.

 

I would say 2c-e as the other two aren't nearly as visual from my experience. I got almost no visuals from what I think must have been a decently high 2c-c dose. Planning on trying 2ct2 tomorrow. So far for me, 2ce has blown all the other 2cx's out of the water, including 2cp. 2cp seems pretty mild to me, except it lasts a long time. Still fun though

 

I reccommend 35-50 mgs 2ct2 orally or 10-15 mgs insuffalated, its a weird trip.

 

30 to 40mg of snorted 2c-c should be quite intense... I personally wouldn't do more than 30mg insuffilated but it seems I tend to be more conservatitive in my phen dosing in comparison to most people on these forums (some of you seem to to be dosing upwards of 50 to 60mg of 2ce, for example, which is just plain nuts imo).

I've never snorted a full dose of 2cc but I have snorted small amounts while already tripping on other 2c's. IME 2cc seems to be less caustic (read as burns less) than other 2c's but this may be irrelevant considering the quantity of material you are considering insuffilating.

Personally id plug the dose instead of snorting it but not everyone is comfortable with dosing in such a fashion.

 

How would 20 mgs of 2cc snorted be? I have no problem with the higher dose but assuming 20 mgs is all I had?

 

2c e or 2c t2 are the best imo, most visual for sure. And I mixed em and felt pretty damn eerie, glad to know it wasn't just me

 

What is the most visual of the 2c's and what is the most equivalent to mdma?

 

I have no experience with 2cc but

The most visual: 2ce and 2ct7
most MDMA like: 2cb and 2ci

The trips vary though for many if not all the 2c's based on doses.

 

Mixing E with I makes the visuals explode 3 fold.

 

^Yup. 2ce and i are a fantastic combo, but I'd recommend having Ginger Ale on hand or you will not like the come-up.

40mg of 2cb was more visual or at least equal to 60mg of 2ce for me, which I was not expecting. It was a pleasant surprise. I honestly felt that b was very similar to e except a more warm body sensation and no nausea. Otherwise, music is orgasmic and visuals will coat your field of vision.

 

My first experiance with 2c's was a mix of I and E... with frequent bumps of both. I was still visually peaking 18+ hours later. I was in a very wide open space flush with nature... and I'll never be able to describe the beauty that I saw.

 

2 c-e is awesome, I highly recommend it. Given that you are looking for a real psychedelic experience and willing to explore this is the way to go...just don't go for a high dose initially even if you're experienced. This one has a weird dose-response curve it's sort of like ok, ok, better, great, upssss wow wtf wow "didn't expect that just out of 2mg more" sort of thing.

Do you guys agree with that ?

I had really interesting experiences (probably like 10 times) with this one and a lot of my friends that I have introduced to RCs thoroughly enjoyed the vibe you get out of it. It does have a scary dark side to it, but the probability of seeing it starts around the 22-24mg mark. And even still the dark side is sort of interesting given that is not accompanied by massive body discomfort (happened to one of my friends)...I recommend ginger tea (or some chopped up fresh ginger before the trip) with 2c-e - I found it smooths the problems you may face, but don't be tempted by pharmaceuticals to take care of that side-effect as they alter the trip flavour.

 

Wow I'm very surprised to hear this. I guess I haven't gone high enough with 2cb but I also enjoy the ~30 mgs range. I have had some interesting visual effects in combination with other drugs but on its own I've maxed out at 33 mgs and probably would not even compare it to 20 mgs of 2ce visually.

 

Darkness is a legitimate face of life that should be explored just as much as light. I think in order to understand something fully, you must also understand it's polar oppisite.

That's a paradox... but 2c-e is a cluster fuck of paradoxes so

Darkness does not mean evil. Fear/ignoriance/selfishness are what lead to evil.

 

*cues yoda's star wars music*