So check it out after gettin high as shit me and friend were sittin around and just thinkin about shit you know, and here's what we came up with. So you got games like you find on the 360 and PS3 nowadays. Now look at all the 3d movies coming out, i'm betting the next gen systems will be 3d in the sense that movies are now. Then the generation after that may be a kind of virtual reality and so on. Now imagine that we get virtual reality down, we can create a virtual world nearly or completely as real as this one. This would be the video games of the far far future. You could just plug into this virtual reality and you may as well be living another kind of life. Pretty cool for sure. Now imagine that they create one of these virtual reality "games", now heres the premise. It will be a version of reality that is without all the problems we face in our objective reality; an artificial paradise if you will. Now imagine that people start playing this game all the time, they plug in and they live this virtual life for hours and hours at a time. Because this virtual reality would be artificially constructed to promote human happiness more than objective reality, is it possible that large numbers of people could get "addicted" to this experience? Perhaps after long enough, and with more advance in virtual reality, people will start to prefer virtual life to real life. Maybe someday far in the future everyone will plug themselves into cyberspace in preference to earthly reality. Is an artificially constructed existence in cyberspace our ultimate destiny? Who knows... Thoughts? :sifone::sifone::sifone:
Sounds pretty much like what the internet is today to me.. :devil: Either way, though, people can get addicted to anything. They won't be having physical withdrawals, but you can easily get addicted to something such as computer gaming.
i definitely think this is inevitable some time in the future. i think resident evil would be a fun and interesting virtual reality game, but not so much a reality. Katamari on the other hand, HELL YA
absolutely it could be addicting/ cause social problems. some people live through secondlife for example. for some who are housebound and handicapped it offers a great service, yet there are others who max out their credit cards and lose their house too buy pretend/virtual stuff. parents who starve their real live baby to spend quality time with their virtual offspring. its fucked up, but it happens. the best way for it to develop would be for us to reach a state like the Venus Project seems to promote. where most of the day to day crap can be accomplished by machines, and people are truly free to do whatever pleases them, without having to work so much. that sort of culture would allow that kind of full immersion virtual reality technology to flourish, without causing as much detriment to society. if everyone gets hooked on VR then where is your workforce? if most of your workforce is machine, and you therefore reduce the need for humans all the time, the hours go down. Fraggle Rock has a 30 minute workweek. im not saying that i think the venus project will make it, i think people are too greedy. but it would be a different life thats for sure.
Sometimes when I'm in nature I start looking around and get the sense that I don't quite belong, that maybe I'm not supposed to come into contact with all these beautiful, perfect, timeless plants, that maybe I was placed there by some unseen force, maybe its all artificial and maybe I really am in some kinda weird matrix... i get the same feeling when I'm in wal mart, except it feels like i was placed in some artificial purgatory where I have to walk around and avoid making eye contact with other people that are trapped in this weird matrix, people that weren't meant to be any part of my life except for whatever reason we were placed in the same time-space continuum because of this artificial force called capitalism.... my mind drives me crazy lol. but seriously..what if we're already in an artificial reality? god i wish i could explain that better. it makes perfect sense in my head but i sound like a crazy person when I type it all out.
This sounds so much like a movie I saw a little bit ago.. I can't think of the name, darn. It had someone insanely popular, not that saying that helps.. most movies do. Anyway, the movie I'm thinking of is where they have bodies that are fake and function on their own. They look however you want them to look, while you stay at home and lay in this thing and live through your fake person.. Anyone know what I mean? To me this is the most extreme virtually reality, and really insane.
Sorry, I realize that sounded like The Matrix, sorry, should have identified that it isn't that to begin with. This one came out much more recently. And it has Bruce Willis, I finally remembered that. I'll go look at his movies and see what one it is. Okay, duh, it's "Surrogates." According to IMDB.. "Set in a futuristic world where humans live in isolation and interact through surrogate robots, a cop (Willis) is forced to leave his home for the first time in years in order to investigate the murders of others' surrogates. "
ooh so the humans stay at home and control these robots that go out and do things a human would normally do? weird concept..i bet hollywood cheesed it up. Like the Matrix movies....great concept, but I went back and rewatched them the other day and they're just absolutely ridiculous movies.
Yes, it's been so long since I've seen the Matrix I didn't even make the connection. And yes it is such a strange concept! I'm going to have to watch the Matrix movies again as well, it's been entirely too long.
well, not exactly. the venus project is like a complete societal overhaul. obliteration of the monetary system, and all of the crap that goes with it. its hard to explain, but even if you approach it skeptically the ideas are really interesting. worth thinking about, trying to find the weaknesses and fix them. the only reason people have to work is because you have to pay for necessities.how can you steal something, if everything is free? http://www.thevenusproject.com/ i like to know about everything, and while i would have a hard time giving my personal space up to computerization, it would give me all the time in the world to think, learn, and create. if only we could all just get along!
yeah it has bruce willis in it, the title is slipping my mind though. imagine making your own avatar in virtual reality, everyone will look perfect, people will even develop virtual sex. They'll also make a new form of communication where you create a whole world and you can "log on" with friends and just chat, or play, or do whatever the hell you want. Believe it or not, but virtual reality is not as far off in the distance as some may think. It is almost upon us, watch.
the venus project I think is similar to communism in that its a brilliant idea but it wouldn't work out very well in execution.
im surprised to hear about the venus project in a thread i haven't posted in. :2thumbsup: @mother'slove what makes you think you'd be giving up your personal space?
i was grasping for words there. im a very hands on, kind of old fashioned type of person. while im sure i would have easy access to all the crafting materials and foods i could want (without having to store them, ahhhh) i would feel uncomfortable being so reliant on a system thats out of my control. boot camp was like that, comfortable in some ways, but you cant just nip down to the mess hall for a snack, so its restrictive in other ways. i think the living experience of the venus project is probably not riddled with such inconveniences, but surely there are some. there is also an uncomfortable leap of faith that i have not made, and thats in the AI. what kinds of morals will computers have? and the dealing with murderers as being sick thing. they are sick, but i still feel better if they are locked up. i would also worry about the risk of one asshole getting it in his head to take over. and if everything is automated, and theres a solar flare we better have some well shielded technologies. but it would be nice to have dependable supply. the real obstacle is everyone has to choose to work together, or most people have to die to reduce the number needed for a majority to choose to work together. i'd much rather we not have to sacrifice most of the population to disease from malnutrition, or unsanitary conditions before we come to our senses, but thats probably gonna be what it takes. a complete breakdown to be replaced. but people never learned to share, and its hard to design pilot cities, since their output would not match the rest of the surrounding economy. it would not be monetarily stable as a pilot, unless it was a pilot sponsored by the government. the government could give you the resources to make it a good enactment of a whole system, but why would they want to? it just seems like so much effort to want to make the world a better place.
I hate to Disaster. i watch lots of movies about The end of the virtual. i feel it will come in the future
it's not an AI pulling the shots, it's humans designing plans with science as dictation. and the lock up thing is a legit opinion. i would think the killers would be seperated though during rehabilition or whatever the culture's morals may be. wow theres a lot to this paragraph haha. some lunatic that want's to take over, they wouldn't really have a way to do it. and ya if technology wasn't prepared for a solar flare, it very well can cause major damage, but wouldn't it anyway in a monetary system? and i agree with the breakdown completely. and a resource-based economy "country" can't exist in a monetary-systemed world, so ya it'd unfortunately demand a huge global grass-roots realization.
