if you love drugs and i know you do...

you should read this or at least look at the graph!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt

 

The fact that alcohol is the worst doesn't surprise me, but only because it's legal and so easily obtained and readily abused.

Based on what I've seen though, meth should be higher on the list than both heroin and crack. Meth lasts for a LONG time, and it puts a lot of stress on the cardiovascular system. Also, I don't see how the "harm to others" statistics for cannabis is higher than that of benzodiazepines, considering benzos do basically the same thing as alcohol, as far as impairment goes, and they also produce more "rowdy" effects than alcohol ever has, in my experience.

I don't see how methadone is so low on the list either. It's a very easy drug to overdose with, especially in combination with other drugs.

 

second hand smoke? i don't get that either.

 

There was a similar study done a few years ago that was Britains 20 most dangerous drugs. It was slightly different but its interesting seeing both of the lists. Its hard to take it at face value as even the article mentions some of alcohol's problems are due to its legality and widespread use. Based on subjective effects I think alcohol would be about where ghb is if it was illegal.

 

I think it's probably talking about the danger caused to others by personal impairment, like driving while stoned or some bullshit like that. lol It doesn't even compare to driving while on a hefty dose of benzos though.

Still, the fact that he concluded alcohol as being worse than all others shows that the professor isn't a total idiot.

*takes swig of Watermelon Joose*

 

Do you have a link for that other study? If not, can you remember how it compares to this one?

I agree, though I'd probably put benzos on the same level as alcohol, as well.

 

Considering that alcohol is legal, easy to obtain and widely used, it really isn't surprising that it's at the top of the list for "harmful to others". The entire study is sort of skewed in that direction.

 

I'm on an iPod which can't link the whole special is on youtube I believe, just type in like "Britains most dangerous drug"

Alcohol was not 1
Ketamine was much higher
LSD was a bit higher
Ecstasy was about the same

 

My best friends dad is finally living the aftermath of the overuse of alcohol. Completely destroyed liver and has less than 3 years unless he gets a transplant which won't happen realistically. Never was a big fan besides the occasional intake but damn that's all I needed to see to stay on that track, it's really sad to witness. As far as heroin goes though, I've seen quite a few people get hopeless addicted. I'm not really sure which is worst, one you'll die a slow death and the other you'll die because you took too much or got a bad batch. I'd say they both are just not worth the risk

 

i'm wondering if the cannabis used in this study was only the smoke-able form of it.. wouldn't edibles be less 'harmful' ? any type of smoke is not good for you..

 

The "harm" is not solely based on the substance, but rather it's overall impact on individual, family and society;

Members of the group, joined by two other experts, scored each drug for harms including mental and physical damage, addiction, crime and costs to the economy and communities.
The study involved 16 criteria, including a drug's affects on users' physical and mental health, social harms including crime, "family adversities" and environmental damage, economic costs and "international damage".

Given that overall impact assessment, I think the graph/numbers are pretty accurate.
Cannabis ranks as high as it does due to the criminal element associated with it, not because of the harm the substance itself does.

Am I the only one who read the article?

 

True, some heavy pot heads can be... you know, not dangerous, but damn they can be stupid and uninteresting.

 

i doubt that. Alcohol use is imbedded in our society. Look what happened during prohibition; that didn't stop anyone from drinking.

I love that mushrooms are at the very bottom of the list. mushrooms are wonderful.

i'm surprised that crack use is not associated with more of a risk to others. I've had crackheads corner me on streets after I refused to give them money. The only thing that stopped them from robbing me blind was probably the fact that I had male friends with me. I was sitting in the passenger seat of a car with my window down at a redlight once and a crackhead walked right up to the window and stuck his hand through the window. Luckily I didn't find out his intentions because the light turned green and my friend that was driving took off very quickly. It was really scary. moral of the story: crack is whack.

 

Right, but that's largely based on its cultural widespread use like I said. If you simply look at the psychoactive effects its very similar to ghb or benzos. I can't speak in regards to benzos but ghb is more dangerous to me because the amount between being high and overdosing is far closer to that than of alcohol's. Also ghb is much shorter lasting so it makes it very compulsive in regards to redosing.

 

sweet...none of my vices are on the list

 

^^caffeine, tylenol, and masturbation?

 

tylenol does nothing for me...I take Motrin

 

2 outta 3 ain't bad

 

Read this the other day and couldn't believe it...I still dont.

 

its still much easier to get addicted to heroin than alcohol.