Catholicism and Psychology

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Psychotheosophy, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    I wrote that it was 20 years ago that I read these 2 books, he writes about many different aspects of catholicism- it would take some pages to resume all that. If you are interested wy dont you read it, its just 2 books, some hours of reading.
    Iam not really interested in this any more since the time.
    You ask about times between inspiration? There is never an absence of inspiration, I mean the moments when its really flowing music or words in a massive way where I cant resist to write it down. There are naturally different intensities of inspiration.
     
  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Wow, you are being so difficult.
    No one is going to read two books just because you say they are inspiring, and yet you don't offer ANY explanation whatsoever.
    People are asking you to just give a few facts or ideas, so that they could decide whether they are interested enough to read the goddamn books or not.

    You cannot just say '' its worth reading however because I think a lot of his writings are very inspiring''.
    Ummm okay, but WHY ? What did you read that was so inspiring ?

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  3. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    You never read any CG Jung?
    He does what he always does in those books: analyzing the symbolic aspects of catholicism, finding out the corresponding archetypes in human psyche, looking for such archetypes also in dreams, in healing processes as well as in mythology history and other cultures to trace back as well the past of the different aspects of catholicizm and contribution from other areas like arts, meditation, literature, and specially in dream analyzis where that understanding of the underlying psychical patterns is needed to interpret the language of the unconscious in the process of healing.
    Then there is also the philosophical part like a bi- polarity in different psychic images of god.
     
  4. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    See, that wasn't so difficult.
     
  5. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Nvm, nvm
     
  6. Psychotheosophy

    Psychotheosophy Banned

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    Associations can be rational or irrational (reasonable or unreasonable),
    Irrational thinking is considered unhealthy by cognitive therapists,
    If not directed toward an ideal, like existence or goodness.

    For example,

    Creativity associates contraries for the purpose of creating (giving something existence),
    Existence (which guides reason) is still the goal over nonexistence,
    Art and music can be very mathematical (geometry, fractions,...).

    However, creativity and logic are not the highest ideals,
    Instead, they are existence above nonexistence,
    Goodness above a lack of goodness.

    I hope I didn't offend you.
    As I said, I'm looking for similarities.

    This sounds similar to Catholicism.

    Sometimes the inspiration to do good feels overwhelming.
    And the inspiration to do good is always present,
    Even if it is lessened by other things.
     
  7. midgardsun

    midgardsun Senior Member

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    The similarities are for example that both take symbolism very serious. If you are interested in detail there are enough sum- ups on internet to get an overview.
     
  8. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    Precisely why I am not longer enganging the OP.
     
  9. Psychotheosophy

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    Poetry is something good,
    Poetry uses symbols and imagery (both of goodness and evil),
    So I can understand how something good can have both goodness and evil.

    Scripture is something good,
    Scripture uses symbols and imagery (both of goodness and evil),
    And like poetry, scripture can use symbols and imagery to explain deeper spiritual thoughts.

    The difficulty I have in finding similarities between Catholicism and CG Jung psychology is that,
    Jung seems to make himself an authority for interpreting scripture for Catholics,
    Regardless of whether he follows its dogmas (the core of Catholic teaching).

    And if evil is goodness itself,
    An evil authority could require absolute obedience,
    Without anyone ever having recourse to a higher authority (goodness) through conscientious objection.
     
  10. Psychotheosophy

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    Jung had an agenda to infect any established religion,
    Which contradicted his psychological beliefs.

    And since it gives an evil authority free reign,
    It opens the door to all kinds of corruption.

    And so we would need to respond,
    With the proper medicine,

    Goodness over evil.
     
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    I believe people ought to submit to the authority of "goodness" (over "evil"),
    And so I believe hierarchy and authority are good.

    However, I also believe that,
    Those who have authority should also seek a common "good," and reject evil.

    Which is why I was hoping we could identify similarities,
    Things held in common which are liked,
    (Like the beauty of poetry.)
     

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