The Wage Gap and Other Gender Issues

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by mara.g, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. mara.g

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    I'm just curious about the opinions of other people about the so called wage gap between men and women. It cannot be denied that the labor participation of women has increased in recent years, and I believe that it is still increasing given that the roles of men and women have been changing.

    Even though there has been an increase in the venture of women into the economic field, what do you think are the reasons why both men and women still receive unequal pay for the same kind of work? What can you say about this issue, do you think it is an issue that urgently needs to be addressed?

    Also, I would like to know what you guys think are the most pressing and urgent gender issues that needs to be addressed today?
     
  2. Driftwood Gypsy

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    I think because even today, years and years since the Woman's Sufferage movement, there is STILL bias against women.
     
  3. mara.g

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    I agree with you that there still is bias against women. And I think one of the reasons why is because women’s labor is regarded as secondary to men, thus they are perceived as cheap labor.
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    In the corporate world, seeing that bullying thing from men, or the boys club thing, get rewarded is bizarre, especially since it usually has negative effects in the long term

    Shifting or promoting people on factual performance measures is always the best for business, not who's friends with who or who is more threatening.

    Wage gaps are just as much about apathy, incompetence, bureacracy as they are gender issues
     
  5. mara.g

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    I guess it is, but when you look at it based on a gender perspective, I think there are competent women who do not get the same amount of pay because they are simply women.
     
  6. Driftwood Gypsy

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    Hmmm. At my work, most of the management are women, I know for a fact most of the women are paid better, and get more hours. And all the hupper management are male... hmmm.
     
  7. mara.g

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    So I guess the unequal pay between men and women actually depends on where you live in and what your actual situation is. I think it is more prevalent in countries which aren't that affluent when it comes to wealth.
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I dont think its as simple as 'because they are simply women'


    What I was saying is that its just as much about the negative aspects of the male gender as it is the negative aspects as to how they treat the opposite gender.

    To generalize, males do tend to be more aggressive, more likely to bully, but they are also more likely to be insecure about their abilities, especially those abilities where the women are percieved to be superior - communication, intuition, conflict resolution, expression.

    Resistance at choosing a female member of a group or board because they naturally feel her intuition might be sharper, more likely to hold the attention of clients or others, more likley to be better at expressing an idea

    From what I've seen its just as much about the males being more insecure and thus immature about their egos as it is whether or not they believe they are actually better at the job than the women.
     
  9. mara.g

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    I do think that the reason they are simply women is actually the main reason but I think that there are instances where this thinking is implied. I think that sometimes women tend to be regarded as inferior to men and the work that men do are given much more value compared to the the work that women do.
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well, to put it in laymans terms, probably the most annoying thing I've had to deal with in my career is all that stupid male ego crap and their overprotectiveness of it, which always causes problems, including making it hard to get to the truth of matters, and setting up unnecessary barriers to female collegues/competitors
     
  11. mara.g

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    I can understand where you are coming from. :) But I do think that not all men are like that and sometimes its difficult to find men who view women as equal to them.
     
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