Shortly before 1 AM I pulled the plunger back on 75 mgs of DPT liquid sitting in my measuring cup. I took the syringe full of liquid and injected the dpt slowly into my thigh about halfway between my knee and my hip at 1 am. As soon as it was fully released I quickly turned off the light and got a cup of water. The dpt came on somewhat stronger this time, I had some caffeiene earlier in the evening and Im sure that effected this trip because on the onset I noticed my heart was beating very rapidly. I definitely had some initial worry about this but I was able to calm myself down as I know increased heart rate can be a side effect of dpt. The visuals came on as converging ripples in my field of vision with eyes open. I glanced at my table fan as it appeared to bend shape and lose meaning to me. There was a strong sense of 'Wow its really coming on strong this time.' I plopped my head on the pillow and let the trip come over me. Once I gathered myself I viewed the increased heartrate more as a rush and each beating moment made my visuals distort/morph/transform/blend/distort/morph/transform/blend repeatedly and in rhythym. I was having many real world thoughts on this trip. I examined Many aspects of my life and the people in it. I was having a deep sense of guilt for some reason not particularly sure what about, possibly in regards to the frequency with which I trip. This trip was extremely serious, no ridiculous visuals or absurd thoughts really to lighten the nature of the trip. I've noticed dpt and on this trip in particular lack the connected otherworldyness of DMT. I did not feel a connection to any sort of higher order entities or even frquencies really. I think I assessed it very correctly on my first dpt trip this material is meditative. It has no doubt redefined my definition of meditative as I usually thought that to mean a soft and gentle peaceful experience. DPT is forceful in its action but very reflective. I had very minimal euphoria this time around, the nausea was a bit more noticeable and I had trouble remembering alot of the trip. There were some very detailed and intrinicate patterns spinning around me and the word twine comes to mind cause that's how I perceived them. I didn't get any dpt characters this time like the chomping jaws or eyeballs of previous times. Well I don't know where to go from here with dpt. I am interested in a higher dose but I feel almost like this is where was my spot. I feel like I've reached the sweet spot of dpt and increasing dose may make things more intense but it may just lead to more amnesia too. I really enjoyed the 50 mgs dose range and feel that was a very good spot for reflection and journeying. I'm interested Possibly in some combos but the dosage and complimentary psych would have to be chosen very cautiously. Smoking it is another option in the back of my mind but I'm hesitant towards that. I came out of the dpt trance shortly after 1 am
I think if you increase your DMT dose you'll find it similar to what you seem to be describing from my understanding.
I tried smoking 100 mgs of DMT and basically blacked out but all I remember from that trip is all these little fractalites come running up on me and then stop and jump into a giant fractalized pissed off entity 'scolding' me.
Phew! (the above). Great trip report. Sorry about the amnesia - I know how frustrating that can be and imagine you do too given that you routinely write good, detailed reports. Interesting that it was so visual in the past and so introspective this time. I wonder about minor differences in set and setting having these effects on such a powerful substance. I get the sense from other reports that there is more to be seen and experienced on DPT but I do not know what that might mean. For myself with a HCl it means snorting more. If you have a freebase liquid, I believe smoking is possible. I too am intrigued by the possibility of DPT combinations but nowhere near being ready to try one, having only done a single, low dose. Thanks again for this report - I am getting a good eduction on this material from reading the reports here. It has a fascinating character and it is great to read a report with a different ROA from the majority.
Thanks Spicey! You raise very interesting points about the set and setting. Setting was pretty much same as always, it was a bit more spur of the moment decision to dose the dpt than previous times as well as the clocks getting set back was on my mind, I also worked all day I think for the first time preceeding dpt, so yes a definitely different set this time. I found it an interesting quirky idea to trip for an hour with no actual time passing. it was humorous to me and like a cosmic parody of those numerous trips where a seemingly large amount of time passed but barely any time in consensual reality had, there was nothing humorous once the trip kicked in though and it made me really glad I didn't save my first dpt trip for Halloween like my original intentions were in late August. All my dpt trips have been pretty introspective though and examining but the lack of concrete visuals was interesting.
So there is nausea even with the injected route? Interesting. The only time I've had nausea has been due to the fact that the drip has been so nasty that I've just vomited. I know what you mean about the amnesia, though. Certain drugs, such as high dose mushrooms and high dose DPT can leave me with certain parts of the trip sort of just faded away. In my experience, most of the memories come back eventually. Especially when you're just tripping on another drug and suddenly think of something that reminds you of whatever you forgot. I don't think that I've ever had euphoria with high dose DPT, as there isn't really anything left of me to experience euphoria. Maybe I'll try the injected route one of these days, but I'm too much of a wuss to use a needle.
Nice report, GB I look forward to trying DPT. The only thing that makes me somewhat nervous is the tachycardia during the comeup. I've always been pretty paranoid about significant increases in heartrate.
I vomited on 50 mgs insulffated (only 98.5% pure) DPT but I don't think it was because of the drip . . . it felt more like a deep, primal kind of nausea. Purging once resolved it and was a great relief.
Yah there is nausea via injection as well. From what I've read its probably not as strong as nausea from insuffalation but I felt if I had about 15 mgs more I was either going to puke or have a heart attack (realistically more like hypervenilate) Like spicey mentioned it had a more primal feeling though. I remembered another part of the trip this afternoon that was actually kind of visual this but I don't think I can explain it very well and it was personal. My mind feels veiled on dpt I wouldnt go so far as to say clouded like mushrooms but its not as direct as dmt either. I felt pretty dissolved on this trip, this was probably the beginning of high dose dpt. I will only go to 100 mgs via injection, someone has passed out on 130 mgs dpt via im and I don't care to tempt my fate too much since I never have a sitter with this stuff. As far as using the needle goes well be careful if you do go that route one day. check out the dpt primer on erowid first before if you decide to use the needle , they suggest starting at 30 mgs im probably 50 mgs would be what I reccomend for a first time if you do 100+ insuffalated. I don't think im is necessarily half an insuffalated dose but just to get used to the needle and onset and stuff. Also once I started with the needle it basically substituted for the nose. Almost every chemical I would snort is now injected, it has an allure in its ritualistic preparation. Addictive drugs become more compulsive via injection. Its great for dpt though I talked to one head before deciding which roa to initially try this chemical and the response was 'DPT is truly the one psychedelic that benefits from injection.'
I think you will really enjoy dpt knowing your affinity for heavy trips. This was the first trip that I really had any worries about my heart on it and like I said I had some caffeiene earlier in the evening so it was probably amplified a bit by that.
Yeah I think I'll enjoy it too. I know the comeup will be managaeble, then I'll begin to dissolve and probably forget I even have a heart. You haven't tried insufflation, have you? I wonder how different it is, when compared to IM.
No I haven't tried insuffalation and really have no desire to. Like every drug pretty much im injection seems much more direct and smooth compared to insuffalation. I think insuffalation lasts a bit longer though but takes a larger dose. Its probably a bit of generalizing but I've done enough snorting of drugs like ketamine, methylone and MDMA as well as injecting said drugs to get the point. (pun intended)
Sounds like you need to increase dose But what about IV? I Have some dpt, and I am also gonna inject it.
To what end? To vomit, pass out or hyperventilate? I may try 100 mgs but I was certainly floored really hard this trip. No I haven't tried iv, I might but I don't feel comfortable injecting myself that route plus ive heard from a few sources im is the optimal route to go with dpt anyways.
All those things are negative. There is tons and tons of amazingly positive effects at higher doses. But I have never needled it
The caffeine pre-dose sounds scary, but my heart is over 40 years old. I have read a lot about DPT over the years and NEVER heard about anyone IVing it. If you do it, I would recommend a very, very, very low dose, like maybe 10 mgs to start. You will be paving new territory. Please use a sitter certified in CPR. Sounds extreme, but please be safe. Always safety first. Live to trip another day.
Yah I was not thinking about the caffeiene part, it was not my intention but really just slipped my mind. It very well may be responsible for some of the other things besides the heart rate increase too like the amnesia and maybe even nausea. I just felt this trip was on the brink of being non beneficial. Perhaps I slightly played down some of the effects and emotions of the trip too but its hard to illustrate when you don't remember the majority of it. I definitely felt many deep, primal connections and emotions, I almost feel as if others are on the trip with me in some strange esoteric way. The short period I went through basically real insanity kind of puts some of these trips in perspective a bit and I probably don't have the desire to get as spaced out as I can as some. The fact I even returned to psychedelics after that time shows my reverence towards these amazing entheogens.
Nice trip report, I've always wanted to try DPT but haven't been able to get any. I've done n,n-DMT though, I hear its similar. What would you say the main differences are?
it's not the caffeine...in my experience with nasal DPT, i noticed VERY rapid heart rate on the onset. nice report!