whatever you do don't start experimenting with syringes

No worries... some deleted responses were nothing but verbal bashes without adding to the discussion. A couple responses left are borderline but none made by you.

 

I can understand the need for maintaining civility on a site such as this, but at what point does it become censorship as opposed to maintaining the civility of the site?
I mean what you personally may consider an attack or personally offensive may not be to others or even the person such remarks are directed at.

As sad as it may be, some people are idiots (not you Pellinore) and need to be reminded of such from time to time

 

So-- you're advocating the inclusion of posts that simply call the OP (or anyone else) a "fucking retard"?

Edit:
No one "needs" to be reminded of anything... the justification that one needs reminding of his/her idiocy is just a thin cover for a personal attack. If one is behaving blatantly enough there is no real need to point it out as those with sufficient comprehension skills will be able to see for themselves- often including the offending party. Those without such skills would be hard pressed to figure out what to do with the information if handed to them.

 

I think you have good intentions pellinone. but I have 2 kids, I am going to school, I am not a lazy bum, who never did anything.and I smoke pot a lot. I also do most psychedelics. My life changed drastically after I took ibogaine, a natural root bark from africa, and my experience was change,d not only did it help me quit heroin for good, but it brought things to my life I never thought about before. Ayahuasca, changed my ego, and now I am way more humble and caring bc of that beautiful spirit of a plant. Esctasy helps me with my ptsd, and I manage very well, taking it on rare occasions. Yopo showed me worlds I did not knwo existed, and opened my mind to new possibilities. etc. I could go on and on on how psychedelics have helped me tremendously. I dont do heroin, meth , crack or any of that stuff. But to judge all drugs by the same book, is just plain wrong. Most who get addicted, to anything, is bc they were already addicted to other things, and switched to drugs.
I have no illwill to you op,but I think you need to educate yourself a little more about the non-hard drugs, before you lump them with the "hard drugs".

 

considering Pellinore was actively online reading before the comments are deleted: the damage is done.

lets also consider, why we may not agree with those direct attack comments...

How is he going to take anyone seriously in this virtual recovery reality hes trying to create, when throwing the same ol stone at him' trying to reinforce a foundation he wishes to break away from?:toetap05:..

Everyone is an idiot sometime in their life: We also dont know the whole background of the OP other than what hes told us..

Maybe we're taken back why someone will inject the things hes claimed.. We also dont know exactly what hes trying to escape from..

@Pellinore if you come here for help, someone to talk too. It should be imperative to you to restrain from using threads marked psychedelic or the general drug forum. When you stated yourself these make you uncomfortable..

There are other places within the Hip Forum for you to discuss the issues you have with you -yourself and mental health, the environment you live in, the world, politics ect.. ....

I have also seen many drug using members overly post in the drug forums, then one day they decided to stop using their drugs of choice and still post throughout other sections of the forum. More so now than they did when they were using drugs. It they can do it you can do it....

 

I did use the smilie denoting the tongue-in-cheek silliness of my comment.
I don't condone calling another person a "fucking retard" , that is an insult to mentally handicapped persons and the correct term would be "fucktard" anyway

(note the once again signifying my awareness and acknowledgment of the silly and "politically incorrect" tone of my post.

To Pellinore, I agree with Orison. If posting in these sections causes you to be uncomfortable, then don't frequent these sections.

 

The motivation was less to protect Pellinore's feelings as I suspect he can roll with the barbs- and more putting a kibosh on the precedent of launching personal attacks. There's a difference between saying you think ones actions are idiotic and calling calling him an idiot.

 

i'll refrain from posting here. After all that meth that went straight to my brain i'm still really recovering..i figure it will take a long time..tried to pick up studies again..but just can't do it anymore. internet is and has always been a place for hate, some people get there personal frustrations away with it..i'm just way to sensitive after all this shit that happened. I'm putting a complete end behind that chapter off my life. I've shared my message...i'm now also convinced that for some people the only way of getting to know the dangers of substance abuse is by experience itself.. i don't know how psychedelics are..i used it alot..but always in insane high doses..and i'm hypersensitive..wich is not a good combination it seems..also i can't deal with abstracts.. its all individually i guess.. but i'm just afraid for the unlucky ones..because i had 3 nightmarish years wich i do not wish anyone to experience himself.

 

As long as they say WHY he is a fucking retard....

 

Quite the opposite. Why the fuck WOULD you IV?

I personally have never taken anything stronger than hydrocodone, but I do enjoy doing a few watsons with the right people.

You're saying "if you use opiates more often than you should use anything but weed, you keep having to take more and IV to conserve horse!"

I'm saying "taking opiates that often is fucking retarded, because of the reasons you just gave, while they are pleasantly warm and fuzzy with occasional munchin' or snortin' use"

 

I don't get the point of rude language..but maybe its something typical american ^^...and i'm not offended by being called a retard as i done iq tests..it its far above average ^^..well..before i used drugs atleast.

 

i began iv'ing out of curiousity.

i got instantly addicted to the rush...life was crap at the moment..and well, thats how those things go ^^.

 

Well that sucks, and I'm sorry, and I do agree with the thread title. But it seems like you're inclined to blame the needle that you filled with drugs and stuck in your arm, not yourself for doing that(even after researching online, which is more than most do, and would scare most off!)

 

its not just drug use really, its the combination of circumstances and drug use that lead to addiction, and unless you are leading a happy life i don't think opiates are good..as i find it to be more addictive then anything else, even normally consumed..i mean..there is no other drug that makes you feel better..even ectasy doesn't compare to it..its to perfect drug for blasting away worries...its the perfect drug for anything blergh..i need to go to sleep

 

i'm a idiot..i have to find out things the hard way thats typical for me

 

Honestly, I never saw that. It gives what I can only describe as a one dimensional feeling. Other drugs, particularly weed and psychedelics, give you multipule kinds of feelings and tinglings, but opiates give me a dull, overpowering, sleepy feeling, which can get intense, and could of course get much more intense depending on what i took how, but no matter how INTENSE, it's not as GOOD as plain old weed....

 

Well- no... gotta avoid creating an atmosphere where people are hesitant to ask advice at a point when they could really use it.

I believe some use rudeness to emphasize a point they feel is important. the only problem with that is how it detracts from what might be a good piece of input.

 

Guilty as charged....

 

It was something I used to do quite a lot...

 

for me opiates is like having sex with god! I also feel really purifyed by it. but i heard from other people that they find opiates stupid because it just makes them sleepy and all (it actually doesn't make me sleepy untill its worked out ^^..it makes me really peacefull)..it seems to be only addictive to some types of persons.