Why do people keep seeing the same shit on saliva?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wuHYCSsSo&feature=related"]YouTube - Intense Salvia Trip

5:30 I know that bus

And wow what a video, poor kid hahahaha

 

Kinda reminds me of mine, I was staring at the floor seeing some crazy shit and looking back at my sitter who was just standing there looking at me. I did this back and forth .. oblivion to reality.

 

I just love that video.

 

I have to say, this may be an intense trip but it's not a freak out.

The first time I smoked salvia, I smoked 0.3g of 15x extract, by myself.
I only wish it was caught on video because it was a ridiculous freakout. I completely lost my mind and ran screaming from my dorm room half naked into a tree, then fell backwards back into my room. I was hysterically panicking for close to TWO HOURS.

For me, each subsequent time I have smoked salvia I have been a little more in control, but it is the same exact thing that happens each time. Reality is bent in the same way. I'm not sure why this happens.

 

Cause spit is mostly water.

 

Yeah I can relate to every salvia report I have read. Salvia is very interesting in this aspect.

 

Everyone watches shitty youtube videos with the same types of people acting like assholes on salvia.. gives them pre-conceptions about the experience and they trip the same way themselves.

 

Yeah with salvia the trip is goes 100% the same at every intensity, unlike other psychedelics which have much much more variation.

 

wow.. its stupid videos like this that fuel the people making salvia illegal.

 

lol yeah - if these people think they were tripping hard in the videos then i should have filmed myself in salvia space to compare...

 

Im not sure I understand what you mean here, salvia is very different at different doses hence the reason you said 'if he thinks hes tripping hard' no? we constantly talk about breakthroughs when referring to salvia. The Breakthroughs and strong trips can be just as varied as dmt, dpt or any other potent hallucinogen.

 

all of my trips have the same character and it feels like i'm going to the same place, in the presence of the same entities. once i'm there, the trip can go to completely unpredictable and crazy different directions, but my trips always start with this feeling of "shit, it's always the same, how could i forget this?"

 

Salvia never did that to me... It sent me off into a different reality completely in which it was a wonderful day and I just pretty much wandered around enjoying it... in my mind...

My body sat on the couch and didn't move...

The people who have mentioned about others watching youtubes and such and letting it effect their trip are right on and not just for salvia...

If you go into a drug experience with preconceived notions of what will (or could) happen, chances are, that is what you will experience.

 

I never saw one salvia video in my life before I broke through myself.

 

How many threads did you read here first? How many people did you talk to and hear their stories?

The best example I can give about what I mean, is the whole issue of munchies and weed...

There are people around the world that use weed to ease hunger pains (not by eating it), other people who use it to increase their appetite... others who use it to settle their stomach so they can keep food down... other who use it and CAN'T eat...

The munchies is what we hear most often though, so it is the most common effect, but it is all just pure psychological... I haven't had the munchies in years and if I were to get them as some people say you must, I would weigh 10000 lbs...

 

I'm not saying it's actually "real". But I think chalking it all up to suggestion is a healf hearted explanation. I posted a video in another thread where some guyt said it much better than I.... *looks for quote*

"We can argue about how metaphorical this reality this may be, and that's fine. but THAT relaity is deffiently metaphorical. And I think the trap, the danger is to choose to see how we choose to interprate that experiance as the experiance it's self."

Maybe these common occurances are just the best ways our minds can figure to understand something on a grander scale than us. Same with savages and their thunder and sun gods.

 

I don't know... I didnt mean to imply one stoner experience is more 'real' then another...

My only point was that the mind itself, has more to do with what a person experiences then the drugs themselves.

 

I disagree in the case of a strong salvia breakthrough and many other strong hallucinogens. There is a point on salvia dmt and other strong trips' where mind is inconsequential. To me its more like errors in visual processing filters as the brain tries to reject the drug.

 

i've made it my life ambition to follow and poke every saliva taker in the head, that's probably what they've been seeing.

 

Well... do you think someone raised in african tribal life isolated from the modern world would have the same type of trips as the person raised in new york city?