Anyone got any info on re-wilding animals?

Obviously I felt it was necessary, or else I wouldn't have posted.

 

Yep. I'll help with that.

 

you'll have to be more specific, what kind of animals are you referring to ? some can not be let loose in the wild after being tamed.

 

:bigcry:

 

dogs mostly, but I'm open to information about anything

 

dogs, great!

set them loose, where they'll form packs, and start looking for targets of opportunity - other peoples' pets and small farm animals being at the top of their list, as they'll be the easiest

what happens next? angry pet owners call the police, the police catch your dogs, and KILL them [farmers do the dirty work themselves]

btw, make sure you get rabies shots for those dogs, cause they WILL get rabies, and are far more dangerous than other rabid animals as humans will approach them [we tend to avoid skunks and the like]

[idiot smiley here]

 

Just because something is an invasive species now doesn't mean it has to be for the rest of all time. I mean, humans are THE most invasive species.

I'm not asking you. You've stated your opinion, no sense in stating it over and over and over because I'm not taking anything you say to heart. You think dogs should be our pets forever, I don't. end of story.

 

I've seen cats sometimes do well off... I remember there was a Carls Junior near my high school where HUNDREDS of cats lived near the dumpsters... I wanted to take them all home, lol. They all had bred for generations and were living very comfortably roaming around.
Dogs, not so much. for some reason they don't seem to do as well off. Too friendly, too trusting, too playful. I've seen more dogs hit by cars, rarely cats.
But IMO, releasing pets into wild = dumb and cruel

 

::truck full of illegal immigrants stops at the edge of the woods at sunset::

Caucasian man: Run free, little ones! you're free to go!

::immigrants look at each other, confused::

Mexican worker: um, what?

Caucasian man: run free!!! go back to your natural habitat!! You're free! ::joy::

Mexican worker: but, senor...

Caucasian man: ::crying:: go on! get outta here! Don't you see i don't want you no more?!

T.T;

 

but that isn't what I'm trying to do, I'm not trying to just release them and say I hope they're okay.

what I mean is work with them 1 on 1 teaching them how to hunt for themselves, not open a cage door and let them run out into a city

 

it's not opinion, it's fact - unlike you, i actually know what the fuck i'm talking about

every day i spend time and money feeding and caring for abandoned and feral cats

today i walked an hour and a half through snowdrifts to bring food and water to the colony at the junkyard

i've also trapped and paid to have those cats spayed and neutered so that some day i might get a break

i've also buried my share of them - one froze to death, two others were killed by dogs, 4 others had such bad infections that they were starving to death [i brought them in to the vet to end their misery]

i don't need any more irresponsible idiots letting domesticated animals loose

thankfully you don't live anywhere near me . . .

 

These two things contradict a little, don't they? If not, please clarify. You haven't given us very much to work with except some controversial statements. You sound a little like those people that let out lab animals to their certain deaths (and possibly deaths of other animals if they are infected with something), and I think that's what's making some people in this thread a little irate. If you aren't talking about abandoning domesticated animals (which in theory can never be "rewilded," but can only turn kinda feral, if they survive the transition at all... either way, they aren't doing just fine) out in the wild, then please clarify exactly what your intentions are so that we will be better able to help you.
I agree at least that it would be cool if you could send your dog out to hunt its own food much like cats do on their own, but I don't know if they work like that. At the very least, you'd probably have to go with them, because they are used to hunting in packs. Without you as the alpha, you run the risk of them going after things they shouldn't go after ie: people, livestock, running into dangerous predators...

The more I think about it, the less it sounds like a good idea...

Would you be bothered if an animal you let out bred a pack and caused the exitnction of native animals, thus upsetting the ecosystem?

 

By living how the majority of humans live you and I are upsetting the ecosystem and causing the extinction of native animals though. By that logic don't you feel bad for riding in cars that pollute? What about eating food that was grown on farms where animals lived before they destroyed the land to lay the farm down? Competition is natural, domination is not. The animals would be competing against eachother for food while you as a human dominate the entire world and never have to compete with anyone for your food. Humans are the ones who originally fucked the ecosystem and made it so that there are animals that depend on us and I think it's retarded that that process can go one way but not the other. Sure it will cause some harm in the beginning but if we let those animals fend for themselves, their population will stabilize eventually.

 

Okay, that answers one of my questions.
And yes, those things do bother me, and as soon as I can afford better, I will reduce those actions in my life as much as possible. That's the plan anyway. Farming should BE an ecosystem in and of itself. Read some Michael Pollan or Joel Salatin on the subject (if you haven't already that is).
The only thing you haven't clarified is whether or not you are planning on releasing domesticated animals into the wild, whether or not you plan to "rewild" them (or attempt to).

 

If I can find someone willing to give me information that will help me, yes. If I can't find any information I'm not going to go do it anyway and hope for the best if that's what you mean.

 

yeah, and you should teach them how to build a fire while they're at it.

 

or yaknow, I could put them in an area suitable to how thick their fur is where they can survive without fire

 

i've given you plenty of information, but you seem hell-bent on ignoring it

that's probably because i'm not interested in helping you

i'm interested in helping animals - your unfortunate victims . . .

 

We must consider the impact on all animals and the ecosystem.
Please do not release exotics (non-natives) into the wild where they are not native.
Your well-intended efforts toward the few will harm the many, possibly for thousands of years depending upon what creatures you release and where you release them.

The most compassionate thing for the ecosystem would be to let your exotics become ambassadors for their kind in a controlled teaching environment.

If we are talking about domestic animals, you must either euthanize them or preferably spay/neuter and feed and house them for the rest of their natural lives (or your lifespan, whichever ends first). If that sounds like a terrible burden, you are right, but it's your duty.

There have been cases successful rewilding of lower animals (ones that rely almost entirely on instinct rather than conditioned behavior). For instance if you release a lizard or frog back into its native habitat, there is a strong likelihood of a positive outcome.

 

why are they the chosen ruined animals? why MUST we continue to do these things? Why do we need to have control over everything and everyone?

If dogs can evolve to become domestic they can evolve to become wild again, and I see no proof that they can't.