ok so the night before last i took 5 hits of alex grey blotter acid and had a really fun night ended up in a tunnel, climbed a mountain ect.. but then last night i took 31mg of 2c-i weighed on a .001 scale and felt nothing just very tired i ended up going to sleep 4 hours after ingestion because of lack of effects i dont understand why this is I have taken other 2cs and had a great time, but not the day after lsd. has anyone else done this? thanks
There is going to be a little cross tolerance. Also, if you're like me 30mg 2ci wont do much. I didnt even really get any visuals to speak of when I did 50 mg 2ci. When I did 72 mg 2ci combined with 100 mg 2cc though, I got pretty strong visuals : P
Well last night I experimented again this time with 2ce.The capsules were each weighed out to 15mg. first i snorted one and it hurt quite bad but I have snorted 2cs before and knew what i was getting into. once the pain subsided I was tripping but wished I had snorted more I then ate another capsule around an hour after snorting the first.then about and hour and a half later i ate another capsule. All this got me to a low ++ it seems when I do 2c I never really feel them unless I snort it but i do seem to have a high tolerance to most psychedelics but for the amount of 2ce i took i had expected much more of an eventful night.
^^^take your whole dose at once. if you're gonna snort 15 mg, eat 15 an hour later, and then 15 more 90 minutes later...you should have just eaten 45 mg all at once. by staggering your doses, you not only have tolerance from 2ci and LSD just a few days ago, but you have tolerance from your first dose of 2ce by the time you take the 2nd and 3rd. i've taken 2cb the day after tripping on acid, and had a very mild trip. it was 30 mg which may or may not have been mild regardless. but i do believe there was some amount of cross tolerance
yeah I agree, I found out the same thing with my second 2cc 2ci combo trip. I dissolved it in water and drank it over about 2 hours the second time, and the visuals never got nearly as strong as the first time. I would intake it all at once if you can, the only problem is if you take it orally it can cause nausea and vomiting which can lead to loss of product. I think there exists a balance where you intake it as fast as you can without vomiting that will maximize the effects. Also imo 60 mg 2ce is where the gold is, less if you snort any though of course.
Agreed. Yeah, 2c-b is very mild to begin with. I took 30mg after a 2.5 month break from psyches, weed, alcohol, everything, and just barelyyy noticed it until I put on some music 2 hours after dosing... had a nice euphoric little buzz for about 30 minutes that quickly sloped down into just an overall good glowy feeling for another hour or so and some mild pink/purple themed visuals when I laid down to go to sleep. 2c's are finicky to me. Sometimes I will trip decently (mostly visuals and body load, PEAs don't change my headspace much at all) off of 30mg 2c-i, but a few times I have dosed and began to feel a slight build up that never really went anywhere. Same batch, no tolerance... all I can come up with is a dispute with my brain chemistry on that particular day. A few times in particular I remember having a dud: years ago, about my 8th time doing 2c-i about 25mg I had sex on the comeup and it seemed to have aborted the rest of the trip somehow. Around that time, I had 20mg 2c-t-7 that I thought was bunk and fell asleep after the 3rd hour of waiting but my bf at the time tripped face off the same batch. A few months ago I had 6mg 2c-p and felt a very slow, extremely mild PEA comeup that fizzled into nothing after 2 hours. There were other occasions as well... The last incident was probably too low a dose but the other times are strange to me.
pick a dose and stick to it 2c's can be weird with effects, some/all of them seem to have no effect until you dose higher and then suddenly BAM there we go 25mg t7 = no effect 50mg 2c-c = minimal effect 60mg 2c-e = whoa momma 50mg 2c-b = omg
SB, it could maybe be that you had more food in your stomach the times when didn't really feel 30 mg 2ci. or good ole set and setting. i notice that finicky aspect with 2ce too. sometimes a slightly higher dose will give me a weaker trip. i figure it's due to the above reasons. i haven't decided if it's an aspect of PEAs or psychedelics in general.
do you mean that 15 mg 2ce or 30 mg 2cb (or whatever lower dose you took) had NO effect? no effect in comparison to the higher doses?
Well the responses i have gotten lead me to belive that i am just not dosing high enough. i was going by erowid and pihkal and was lead to believe that 25mg should have me tripping balls but only found minimal effect while some of my freinds said they tripped of 20mg. I belive next time i will try 60mg in a single capsule and see where that takes me.
maybe you should try something in between? that's a pretty hefty dose increase. i mean, you'll probably be alright, as it's not all that uncommon for people to take that much 2ci(?), but maybe 45 mg might get you where you want?
If you're talking about taking 60 mg 2ce in a capsule I'd recommend eating some ginger ahead of time and after to minimized nausea. Personally I think its best to eat food about 3 hours or so before ingesting the 2c-x to help minimize nausea but not prevent absorption.
Well last night i took 50mg in a capsule and had one of the best trips iv ever had. amazing fratals patterns and colors at a high +++ for about 5 hours. i dont think ill ever be snorting 2c againe unless i only have a small amount
I always fast for 12+ hours before dosing, so S+S is most likely the culprit. GB says it's all psyches in general, but IME everything other than PEAs have never failed to work for me. Then again, I need more experience with everything else
Sorry I dont post more and forgot to say what chemical as i am very high. it was 2ce. and i also fast before ingestion or eat very little. also set an setting for me is almost always my home and was in in the last post i have made. I have many various trip toys like very large tv and stereo lots of great movies laser system Larry Carlson paintings and my favorite astrojax and i only ever have very good friends over.i think i should give you some background about my experience i have done lsd many times in different forms natural ayahusca and done many mimosa extractions and achieved pure white crystals grown my own mushrooms 2c b e i t2 molly methylone mescaline tar and amitas in rainbowland ketamine dxm 4-aco-dmt 5-meo-dmt and dpt thas all i can think of right now
is tar, heroin? and was it amanitas that put you in rainbowland? some punctuation might help. and you can't use the "i'm high" excuse. because so am i:sifone:
no tar is not heroin although I have done a handful of pills opiates and such.im refering to mescaline tar idk it some some kind of extraction and I tripped very hard on this for almost 2 days re-dosing along the way. When i say rainbowland i mean the rainbow gathering specfically ocala regionals '10 where i did 2cb mescaline dmt mdma lsd doc amantas and other mushrooms maybe some othre things i dont remember but some where done together and some separately