how do YOU stop your identity from being drugs?

besides the usual "occupy your time blah blah blah" bullshit, what mindstate do you approach drugs with to prevent yourself from being them?

some people have suggested stopping all drug use completely, but all this does for me is make me think of them more.

how do you approach this potential problem? though this problem obviously applies moreso to the harder stuff, it no question applies to weed too.

one thing I've thought of is basically trying to forget the big fact that your "on a drug" when you do take them, rather than obsessing in your head "WHOA THIS HYDROMORPHONE REALLY HAS ME NODDING SOOOOOOO NICELY", but this does not erase the problem whatsoever.

 

Kinda like you do with HPPD.

Don't pay too much attention to it and it will eventually go away

I think much of the problem is the thoughts you put into it...if that makes sense.

 

I don't think it's unhealthy to do drugs every once in a while. The key is to just keep busy. Be mentally and physically busy to get your mind off of things, then, when you want to relax and unwind, that's the time you take drugs (for recreational purposes only). That works for me. I work 5 days a week and on the weekends, either I drink and party or get stoned at home.

 

to be completely in drugs you must forsake all else. don't get me wrong, drugs are incredible, but they're not that good. I don't have the commitment to be an opiate addict. It's too easy to have a social life, a future, etc

 

opiate addiction is brutal, but there are opiate addicts who lead otherwise normal lives...they have a way of chewing up and spitting out the rest of us though.

it's really as simple as DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T DRUGS.

 

i stay away from things that aren't natural, for the most part. the things I do that are not natural I only do very rarely. its easy to partake in natural substances and not even think of them as drugs. Viewing them as natural plants put on this earth for a purpose breeds a certain type of respect and makes them hard to abuse.

I think when it comes to any addictive drug, if the addiction is there then it has already taken over your life. I know plenty of alcoholics that get up and go to work every day, but it doesn't mean they won't get DTs if they can't drink for a day or two.

 

they are all drugs, and thinking for one minute that the fact that something grows naturally changes that is ridiculous.

 

how exactly is that ridiculous?

If you're suggesting its ridiculous that I trust plants that have been used by humans for thousands of years with no adverse effects over drugs that are manufactured by the pharmaceutical industry or worse yet, in someone's meth lab in an abandoned trailer, then ....call me ridiculous.

I know there are a lot of synthetic drugs that are manufactured by chemists without the insidious intent of the pharmaceutical company, drugs like LSD, that have been proven relatively safe over the years. I have very limited knowledge and experience of LSD and MDMA and no knowledge of any other drugs. I prefer to avoid drugs that are man-made. If others decide not to, I don't really give a shit. I wasn't making a judgement on the way others view drugs, but thats what you did to me.

Maybe you're the ridiculous one for thinking that plants are on the same level as synthetics.

 

:biker:

 

lol you seriously went back and found that?

i'm not knocking anyone for the drugs they choose to do.

dmt is a natural substance found in just about everything in nature. Extracting it is not the same as synthesizing it.

 

No, there is absolutely no difference if the DMT is 100% pure in both cases.

Neither "natural" or "synthetic" are better or worse. What difference does it make if a plant or a person did the synthesizing?

Furthermore the "natural" vs. "synthetic" argument is something of a false dichotomy. It's entirely possible that some of those "synthetic" chemicals that you spurn may someday be found in a plant. Methamphetamine, for example, was only known as a synthetic product for about 100 years, until it was recently discovered to occur in a couple species of Acacia in Texas. So now meth is a natural product, and people should be more comfortable using it, because nature provided it for us, right?

 

wow I'm surprised seeing orison's response the guy who rallies against jwh-018 eventhough it effects the same brain receptors as cannabis.

 

There is no 'purpose' to something just because it's natural. Many plants contain poisons that can kill you - what purpose are they there for? The only reason plants produce drugs that happen to be useful to us is that they help the plant, or we made the plant produce it (in which case it it's as artificial as synthetics).

 

to clarify:

I don't do every drug that occurs naturally in nature. I can think of several herbs that are very harmful to your health. I wouldn't do them. I wouldnt do naturally occuring meth or manufactured meth.

I have done synthetic drugs. I just make it a rare occasion. I'm not condemning them.

orison, i understand what you're saying. I was thinking more along the lines that DMT is found naturally in nature, even if it can be synthetically replicated. There are a lot of synthetic drugs that do not occur in nature. Maybe some of those do actually occur in nature and haven't been discovered yet. who knows.

I think there is a purpose for everything that occurs in nature. its a difference in philosophy.

 

yea i seriously went back a whole 2 months to find that
extraction and synthesis both yield synthetics there is nothing natural about smoking dmt

 

Dmt is not JHW ......

maybe if those people that were so proudly filling their bowl up with spice, would take the time to extract DMT, there would be a flood in the psychedelic culture.. (not a bunch of whiners "cant get no spice, how am I going to get high?"

you can lead horses to DMT but you cant make them smoke it.

And Im a cannabis grower.. there is a difference.

 

I think we can all agree on that :alien:

 

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHOvu_qaJHc

reminds me of this

 

Nowhere did I make an assertion that Dmt is jwh. I was responding to the rest of your argument about the false dichotomy of 'natural' vs. 'synthetic' but now I'm unclear if you are backtracking on that argument or what.

I agree that both natural and synthetics should be considered drugs. I really do get kind of bothered when someone prefers naturals and others will try to convince them that synthetics are the same tho, and I use synthetics far more often than natural plants/drugs. since alot of the synthetic users will tell you not to use ecstasy or crystal Meth but act like popping some unknown RC is completely alright.

 

Well, im not going to back some crakass crusade to defend some gas station bs, because some teenages claim it gets them high..

I can synthesize chloroform is a few hours, if you want to get high try some.. you might see where im coming from.. Its makes no difference how human beings get intoxicated.. But one fuck isnt going to be corning the market at the gas station while I have to bust my fucking balls to grow it and carry a 9mm to protect it. lets get real here.,.
Whats even more so amazing is place where cannabis is an open market.. people are still pursuing poisonous, and possibly fatal substances..